Thursday, April 09, 2009

Fethullah Gulen: Infiltrating the U.S. Through Our Charter Schools?

www.actforamerica.org


For some time we have been researching a Turkish-based Islamist movement that has a significant network here in the United States. Given Turkey’s history of secular, democratic government, and some of the remarks made by President Obama in his recent speech there, many of our members and other readers will likely be surprised by what we have found. I suspect that even many who are well-read on the issue of Islamism are unfamiliar with the Fethullah Gulen Community (FGC), a movement a February 2009 article in the respected Jane's Islamic Affairs Analyst labeled “Turkey’s third power.” Indeed, the article noted in its Key Points: “Turkey’s Islamist Gulen movement, while a powerful political force, is largely an unfamiliar entity to the West.”

The FGC is named after Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish imam who now lives in the United States. He fled Turkey in 1998 to avoid prosecution on charges that he was attempting to undermine Turkey’s secular government with the objective of establish an Islamic government. Since Gulen’s arrival here the Department of Homeland Security tried to deport him, but he successfully fought the effort in federal court because it was ruled he was an individual with “extraordinary ability in the field of education” – although he has no formal education training.

The FGC emerged in Turkey in the 1970’s. According to the Jane’s Islamic Affairs Analyst piece, Gulen stated that “in order to reach the ideal Muslim society 'every method and path is acceptable, [including] lying to people.’” This public acknowledgement of taqiyya (employing deception to advance Islam) is highly pertinent to Gulen’s activities here in the United States.

A recent article in the Middle East Quarterly by Rachel Sharon-Kreskin titled “Fethullah Gulen’s Grand Ambition” sheds light on Gulen’s background:

Gülen was a student and follower of Sheikh Sa'id-i Kurdi (1878-1960), also known as Sa'id-i Nursi, the founder of the Islamist Nur (light) movement. After Turkey's war of independence, Kurdi demanded, in an address to the new parliament, that the new republic be based on Islamic principles. He turned against Atatürk and his reforms and against the new modern, secular, Western republic.

Sharon-Kreskin documents how the FGC, in league with Turkey’s ruling party, Adalet ve Kalkinma Partisi (AKP), has been successful in gradually moving Turkey away from its secular democratic governance, towards an Islamist state governed by Shariah law, and reorienting itself toward Iran. What’s more, other evidence suggests that Gulen’s ultimate goal may well be the resurrection of the Ottoman Empire so as to reinstate the Islamic Caliph. Clearly this has immensely serious ramifications for geo-political affairs in the Middle East as well as for the continued rise of radical Islam throughout the world.

What makes Gulen particularly dangerous is his strategic and tactical means to achieving this goal. He oversees a worldwide network of businesses, schools, foundations and media outlets, with an estimated budget of 25 billion dollars. Here’s what Gulen had to say in a sermon in 1999 aired on Turkish television:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

Simply put, he is brilliantly and patiently employing taqiyya on a global scale, because this strategic approach is not confined to Turkey.

Here in the U.S. the FGC runs over 90 charter public schools in at least 20 states. This was brought to our attention by ACT! for America members who actually have relatives who teach in one of these schools, an illustration of the growing reach of ACT! for America’s “eyes and ears” across our country. For obvious reasons we cannot reveal the identity of our sources.

Our readers may be familiar with the numerous emails we have released regarding the operation of the Tarek ibn Zayed Academy (TiZA), a publicly funded charter school in Minnesota that is so blatantly Islamic in nature that the Minnesota Department of Education issued two citations against it and the ACLU is suing it. FGC schools appear to be very different, and reflect the Gulen’s exhortation to “move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers…”

Indeed, the fact that so little has been written about the FGC schools here in the U.S., as well as the accolades that have been accorded the FGC as a model of “moderation” by some in our government, would appear to confirm that the FGC and its schools are doing an excellent job of heeding Gulen’s exhortation and masking their true intent.

During several discussions and emails with our sources inside FGC schools, I asked specifically if the schools promote Islam in the way that the TiZA school in Minnesota does. I was told that this was not the case in the schools these sources were familiar with. However, one particular school (and likely numerous others) appears to be in violation of state law because the school’s affidavit for its charter does not acknowledge that it is connected with a religious institution or group. In other words, those who chartered this school practiced taqiyya by hiding this fact. (Enterprising readers may want to research this with respect to FGC schools around the country.

What’s more, the schools appear to be a source of recruitment for outside school activities sponsored by the FGC, such as summer camps, which would be in keeping with the pattern of recruitment of members and followers that FGC employs worldwide, according to both the Jane’s and Middle East Quarterly articles.

As a further example of the use of taqiyya, the Jane’s article gives examples of how FGC’s Turkish language media outlet Zaman runs stories with information and headlines that are missing from the English language media outlet Today’s Zaman. This practice of two different messages, one to the indigenous Islamic population and one to the West, is common in the Islamic world, and has led many in the West, including political leaders and academics, to be misled as to the true intentions of Islamists.

In building a sophisticated and well-funded worldwide network, including a substantial presence here in the U.S., Fethullah Gulen is following in the footsteps and exhortations of Mohammed, who counseled patience and deception as a means of overcoming the infidel when the power of the infidel was greater than the power of the umma, the Muslim community. In a very real sense this is as or more sinister than the frontal assault strategy of Islamist organizations such as al Qaeda and Hamas, because, like the proverbial “frog in the kettle,” we are incrementally “boiled alive” without realizing it.

For years American Congress for Truth, and now its “sister” organization ACT! for America, have been ringing the alarm bells about what is variously known as “cultural jihad,” “creeping jihad,” “stealth jihad,” and “creeping shariah.”
Much of Europe and Great Britain has been Islamized through this process, a process that invariably does not lead to peaceful coexistence between Muslims and non-Muslims, but leads to Islamic self-segregation, increased Islamist militancy and aggression, and the eventual forced imposition of Islamic shariah law within the society.

The FGC charter schools in America may outwardly appear innocuous, but they are serving a greater and long-range objective of Fethullah Gulen. We in the West need to be less gullible and more discerning when it comes to the elements of “stealth jihad” within our midst.

Guy Rodgers is Executive Director of ACT! for America.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think, before making and writing complo theories like the middle-easterners frequently do, we should just go to these schools you are mentioning, meet the children and their parents, meet the teachers, talk to htem, see what they think, and then decide how these schools are. We should look at how these schools, the children and the teachers are performing.
In Turkey, there is a marginal but powerful group that considers and labels every conservative or liberal idea/group as "jihadist" or "islamist" and they keep pumping the media with their complo studies and manipulating the army to keep themselves powerful. Please do not rely on these sources.

GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...

Anonymous,
Could you ever imagine that these schools have been visited, teachers and parents spoken with and the concerns remain? Have you read documents such as “Fethullah Gulen’s Grand Ambition”? If one does not want sharia Law and expresses such a point of view, your tactic is to first "soft sell" your position and make it sound like if we, ythe unknowing, only could better understand than our positions would be altered. I noticed your comment focus was on the school not on the strategy being used. Do you agree with the strategy-if yes why? Why did you not address and discuss the endgame? Why am I and others not entitled to dislike aplication of Sharia in our democratic country?

A Turkish Reader said...

Dear Doc,

Your observations about the Gülen movement are very accurate: it is a well-organized, well-financed and peaceful-appearing yet very secretive group with an end goal of toppling the modern, secular Turkish state and establishing an Islamic caliphate in its stead. It is in the process of infiltrating the entire Turkish state apparatus just like cancerous cells spread in and take over a health body. Members of this movement appear to be civilized and educated, especially toward non-Turks, but they lash out with fervor at Turkish columnists and journalists who are critical of the movement, using profanities and even death threats. Gülen's movement is no different in nature from that of Ayatullah Khomeini before the Iranian revolution. As such it is not only the greatest threat to modern Turkey's existence, but also a national security threat to the US as serious as Al-Qaida.

The reader who posted under "Anonymous" appears to be one of the foot soldiers of this group, who regularly scour the press and respond to publications critical of their leader and their movement. We frequently see their hateful posts to articles about the movement in the online Turkish press.

Anonymous said...

Dear Doc,

I understand your concerns about FGC schools. With respect to overall strategy, I also agree with you. However, even in Turkey, some people consider FG as a CIA agent and a person who is backed/protected by US (I should note that he is currently in the US). Now, the question is: Does CIA aware of FG's strategy? If yes, are they really supporting him? Why US government is allowing them to operate so many charter schools in the US? (I guess this should not be possible by CIA/FBI's approval)

GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...

Thank you for your articulate response. You ask several good questions, I do not have the answers. I realize individuals in Turkey make the CIA accusations-I ask do they have evidence and to what end would the CIA support such a group? It is distressing that we allow these schools to flourish here in the USA-political correctness is literally killing us. All the best-doc

A Turkish Reader said...

Doc,

US government's tolerance of Gulen's schools has nothing to do with political correctness. The argument goes, that the US government passively supports Gulen's organization because it is considered to be a moderate Islamic movement and hence a counterbalance against the radical Islamic groups worldwide. What the designers of this policy fail to see is that Gulen's group, in spite of its peaceful and pro-western appearance, does not differ in ideology from radicals in the sense that they all aim at world domination of Islam and the conversion of non-Christians first through peaceful or then through forceful means. When the followers of this movement come to power positions in public service in Turkey, they follow a policy of attrition and oppression against non-Muslims and liberal Muslims in their jurisdictions in order to lead them to the "righteous path."

GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...

Turkish Reader,

Thank you for your articulate comment-I agree with your analysis. In the USA it is political correctness that does not allow your insights to even be spoken and many of us are doing our best to "ring the bell". Unless we cease the nonsense that we are "offending" people by questioning a group's values, beliefs, actions and intentions, I fear for the future of America.

Anonymous said...

Dear Doc,

I fully understand your concerns regarding anybody who has a hidden agenda whether it be FGC or any other islamic or any other type of organization. However, my suggestion to yourself and others who are reading this column is simply two:

1. I believe that there are many articles written about FGC(please, refer to google news or something like that) and many of them are positive about FGC. We should refer to all these articles while approaching FGC. As a matter of fact, we should approach all stories in a similar fashion so that we will not be victims of bias.

2. I totally agree with some of the comments. We should visit the schools and talk to the parents and local authorities if we can.

Kind Regards,
Kurt

A Turkish Reader said...

Let us dissect the previous post by Anonymous, which sounds much like a standard response designed by the public relations arm of this movement. It does not answer the criticism directly, but points out positive aspects about the movement, such as the relatively favorable press coverage about the movement and the satisfaction of students' parents by the quality of the education and of local authorities by the law abidance of these schools.

I don't believe you will hear much criticism from the parents of students. It is equally unlikely to expect the school administrators to admit to an Islamic agenda. The hands of local authorities are tied unless these schools break the law, and the FG community is extremely cautious about not confronting the law in a blatant manner in any of the countries where they operate. Rather, they use subversive methods to reach their goals over the long term: just like turning the heat on a frog in a kettle and letting him boil without him realizing it.

Every time, we get the same picture: a secretive, well organized movement with indoctrinated members, such as the ones who systematically post the same canned--and lame--responses in a coordinated fashion. FGC is a serious national security threat, and needs to be treated as such by the policy makers and law enforcement.

Anonymous said...

i am very very frustrated with this article.
why is that every time muslims come to one place and work, americans name them threat to national security or call them terrorist.
you are the one my friend Doc (and turkish reader) who dont want coexistence with muslims.
belive me you dont know FGC.if you did you would never write this article.
i finished this school, three years ago.these were my best years in my life.ive never seen such sacrifice from teachers and their stuff.our teacher even cried with tears in his eyes because we didnt want to read story book.these teachers know to be friends and educaters.
till this day a contact them and friendship grows bigger and stronger every day.
i am form country were muslims were attacked for years and years because their name was Mehmed or Admir etc...we even went through devastatig war recently.belive me, i was raised in the society in which we were taught to hate christians becaouse of what we suffered.
This school of FGC has opened my eyes and learned me how to love everyone unconditionally.My mom is a christian which is the fact that my life was more further complicated then others in our society and sometimes is still.After finishing this school i learnt that there is nothing better but to help my parents and love them.my dialogue with christian part of my family has reached higher levels.
These schools teach tolerance and represent tolerance in its every meaning.impact which it had on me proves all that youve written wrong.
i feel that your approach on this story from the begining was negative.you should be more objective, and point out some positive things also.
And that part in which you say that it is allowed to tell lie is wrong.It is : You always say the truth , but not always the whole truth.
i am very very sad with my turkish reader.he doesnt want to admit that these schools have brought only good to his homeland.turkey has become economically stronger country since erdogan and his party took the power.now again if erdogan is a mulslim praticoner then you connect him to some terroristic group.not objective.and if there is such a group affiliated with him why are their intensions automatically evil.Because CNN and BBC say so.you dont know a thing about media which runs our world.FAKE FAKE FAKE. in the West,while war was here in my country,our army was called terrorist organisation by same media.and we just fought to survive and defend our land and families.
i know very well that your goverment (american) dont want peace in muslim countries, and i am living proof, but i hope american people want.
if you really want to understand muslims and islam you should travel to these countries, meet people, see how they live, read a lot of books written by prominent islamic schoolars and then you should understand FGC.

my intensions were sincere and i didnt want to hurt anyones feelings.

Friend

GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...

Yet you remain anonymous-what makes you think I wrote this article-I did not-what makes you think I do not live in the ME among Muslims, I do. what makes you think I have not read and/or studied Islam-your ongoing use of victimology contributes to your overt presentation of yourself as having been "wronged"-now, let's begin a discussion-doc

Denis said...

I dont say that just muslims today suffer and that only we are victims.
Certanly there are muslim groups in which main idea is terror.
But Gulens view is not like that.If you shed tears for those who are poor and those who inocent who died, theres no way that that person has evil intensions. Tears dont lie.
I never saw that some politician or some prominent religious person on the west cry for some people they even dont know.and still i dont say that majority of them doesnt care about other 2/3 of world population.

i want dialogue. (maybe my english is not so good but i hope you can follow me).thanks

i am not the anonymous who commented on the begining.the last post was mine an this one is

A Turkish Reader said...

Fetullah Gulen said: "Atheists and terrorists are the same." Someone who makes such a comment can not be a moderate. His moderate appearance --except for some blunt and honest views like the comment about atheists--are deceptive--he urges his followers to quietly work the system until they reach and conquer all power positions. The fact that he preaches an "evolutionary" rather than a revolutionary path for Islamic dominance doesn't make him moderate or democratic.

He and his followers pose a serious long-term danger for Turkey and the US. The US will regret deeply if these people manage to topple the modern republic in Turkey and establish an Islamic caliphate, what they have been diligently striving for.

European reader said...

We should try this so called caliphate, i dont know if theres worse way of ruling the world than that of american...So many people killed , american goverment can openly compete with Hitler... American goverment had being crushing turkey until 2000, then changes came and enemies immediately began voicing out their concerns about turkeys future,hyopcrites...

GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...

Yet another 'brave" anonymous responder-you are all such cowards when it comes time to properly stand up for what you say you believe-not strong enough or with enough courage to identify yourself. Sharia law is for you, NEVER for me and I will stand against it in my society for the time I have on this planet-careful, no nasty rebuttals to this statement-doc

Sister Wayment said...

Hi Doc, I agree with you! Sharia is never for me or my family. Thank you for standing up and fighting the good fight. These groups whether they be Gulen or others have no right to operate (using our public tax dollars) in this clandestine fashion. If they are so benign then why the secrecy? Why the attacks on anyone asking questions regarding this? Keep up the good work, I look forward to reading more of your thoughts on this matter.
Kelly

Altan Erbulan said...

Gulen is a covert operative; he is the leader of a surreptitious islamic fundamentalist organization. You can compare him to Khomeini when he was living in France before the Islamic revolution in Iran and directing the entire movement from exile. Gulen is a serious threat and needs to be extradited.

Sister Wayment said...

It sounds like people with more personal knowledge of Gulen and his organization than I have are confirming what ACT for America has outlined. If this is accurate I agree he needs to be extradited, but how do we accomplish this? I believe that as citizens of the United States we have a duty and sacred obligation to fight against any and all attacks on our freedom and the freedom and liberty of the generations to come. If like minded people will come together we can and will be able to fight against all threats, and I would like to encourage everyone to stand up and do what you need to. Sometimes the seemingly innocuous problems are the most dangerous!

Anonymous said...

So you say that US government and secret services have no clue of this "threat" and allow them to open schools? I don't think any radical organization will be allowed to open schools especially Islamic and especially after 9/11.

Kelly, why you came to conclusion that these people have "more personal knowledge of Gulen"? Maybe they just don't like him?

When it comes to sharia law it cannot be applied to US simply because it had multicultural population. You cannot enforce sharia (or any other law) to the society. You can see what happened in Iran when they tried to enforce it. Although Iran is mostly muslims.

Sister Wayment said...

I would like to reply to anonymous, since you obviously are of Turkish origin, perhaps you have some personal knowledge of Gulen? If you do then why don't you tell us more about him and his agenda? Just saying that maybe others just don't like him is ridiculous, and to say that in Iran they are not able to impose Sharia law is equally ridiculous. One needs only to go to the mainstream media and you will see the effects of their "imposition" of Sharia law on their citizens. If these organizations are not stopped in their infancy, then who knows where they will go. I saw an article in the Salt Lake Tribune on-line edition which talks about one of these schools (FGC) and it is causing a furor there. I would encourage you all to go there and read what is going on in middle America, I bet it's worse outside of fly over country!

Nick Montgomery said...

I am still having difficulties to understand why this Anonymous Turkish reader doesn't mention his name while the Dr.GS Don Morris, Ph.D. openly publish his name.
There is only one explanation this Turkish reader cannot stand behind his accusations.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who thinks that Gulen's schools are just here to help educate our children is naive about how insidious and criminal their activities truly are. Their actions are far reaching and the United States government has not diligently investigated their actions.

I have to wonder if the reason the United States government has turned a blind eye to Gulen's schools' blatant disregard for civil rights (discrimination), money-laundering, and immigration fraud, is because of its desire to help facilitate Turkey's admission into the EU and its passage into Middle Eastern energy corridor.

Read what happened to one guy who turned Gulen's school into the United States government; http://www.freemustafaemanet.com

Anonymous said...

Dear Doc,

Unfortunately, I should say that I do not agree with any of your idea. Moreover, I believe no one who has some objective view and/or some pure knowledge or information about Mr. Gulen and his movement will not be able to agree with you. I have totally the same opinion with Kurt, and recommend you and anyone who really wants to get some objective information about Mr. Gulen and his movement to follow the links above and get the real information about them. Here are the links:

http://fethullahgulenconference.org/houston/read.php?p=fethullah-gulen-vision-transcendent-education

http://fethullahgulenconference.org/houston/read.php?p=fethullah-gulen-philosophy-of-education-activities-of-movement

http://gulenconference.org.uk/userfiles/file/Proceedings/Prcd%20-%20Wright,%20S.pdf

http://gulenconference.org.uk/userfiles/file/Proceedings/Prcd%20-%20Bruckmayr,%20P.pdf

Anonymous said...

You lost me with the second sentence: "Given Turkey’s history of secular, democratic government..." History of secular, democratic government? To be able to make such a statement, one would have to have read nothing but official accounts and paid absolutely no attention to political and social events in Turkey since its founding as a republic. Religious, ethnic, linguistic and political oppression are the norm in Turkey, where all religious orders were closed, freedom of religious expression was severaly curtailed, Kurds were forcibly moved out of their homelands to decimate their majority there, and all non-Turkish identities other than those of non-Muslims were prohibited. These issues are widely discussed today even in Turkey; how is it that you seem to have missed out?

Sister Wayment said...

In response to Anonymous, the Anonymous who kindly included the links to Gulen's propaganda machine, I find it incredible that you would be so irresponsible as to only include sources biased towards Gulen. Everyone who is in opposition to Gulen and his organization at least has the intellectual honesty to encourage others to look into all sides of the argument. Sites sponsored by Gulen are anything but biased. This is the same tactic used by his charter schools in the U.S. of saying "look into Gulen, he is a good man, and his organization is one of peace, love and brotherhood", well it may be on the surface, but when you pull away the layers, it isn't so. This organization is full of deception, it's grounded in it, and expecting people to get an unbiased view of it through Gulen's own web site is more than ludicrous!

GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...

Kelly,

Thank you for your comments-this article, posted almost a year ago certainly has resonated with my readers-good discussion has followed-thank you-doc

Unknown said...

Who is Mr. Gulen? Is he bad or good? What is the TRUTH? What is the correct information?

Here are some answers: Mr. Gulen is a bad person for those who wanted have Turkish people narrower perspective so that they have military coup. Since he proclaimed education in Turkey and tried to set relationships with other countries, these people didn't like and have been losing their power in Turkey. I would like to ask why the people think that Mr. Gulen had hidden agenda? Because these allegations have hidden agenda for Turkey so that we had Coups in each 10 years over the past decades.

Since these charter schools are appraised and well known, and US citizens like the idea and support, allegations are losing one of the supporters or tried to bring the people's attention on Turkey so that they would have another coup in Turkey with support of US government? What would be the idea of accusing these schools for infiltrating? Here are the questions to be answered for the author of this article: Which department or part of US are they infiltrating? What would happen if they infiltrate?

I graduated one of the private school which adapts Mr. Gulen's idea in High School. I was a bad child who stole, harass a girl and etc. I loved one of my teachers in 7th grade and he really influenced me positively so that I would be a good citizen who don't steal and be conscious about the values. But since my dad is rich I got my degree in Industrial Engineering in Kocaeli. I came to US to get my Ph.D. in Industrial Engineering so that I would teach and administer my dad's company in Turkey. I was offered a job as a teacher and I love teaching... I tried to be a good example for US students by having extra curricular activities, camping and trips so that they would listen to me. I'm writing this comment from a camp with my 8th grade students. While we are talking on something, one of them (Hispanic) said "Muslims are terrorists" and the other hispanic student implied that they were puppets who commit suicide attacks! Why do they think differently? Who make them think Muslims are terrorist? How come the other thinks they were puppets! How would it be if someone says Christians, Jewish and Buddish etc are terrorists after a group of supporters commit a suicide attack.

If I wanted to infiltrate to US, i shouldn't work in these accused school, instead I would work another company so that no one would know me (AS these allegations did right after Ottoman Empire collapsed and uneducate and make Turkish people ignorant about their history, ancestors and religion. Since Turkish people got their education and help other nations be aware about Turkey, these allegations are MAD.

Resembling this movement with any Iranian or Al Qaida is ridiculous. All these groups are formed by US or NATO against Communist regime in Soviet Union right after WW II like the allegations in Turkey. Since the fear is dismissed, US revoked the authority of the allegations. They are like a fish over the net! They are caught by the people who love their countries and military coups! This is what is going on about the case called Ergenekon and billing Armanian Genocide so that Turkey becomes alone again.

A Turkish Teacher at one of these accused schools

Anonymous said...

I believe that those who are talking negative things about Mr. Fethullah Gulen and Gulen Movement has never visited Gulen inspired schools or has never met someone from the Gulen movement. Reading biased articles which has references from the newspapers!!! such as Fethullah Gulen's Grand Ambition can mislead you. In order to understand the Gulen Movement better, I would recommend you the following sites that has academic articles and articles that are written by Mr. Fethullah Gulen.
Fethullah Gulen

Sister Wayment said...

I would like to reply to Mr. Anonymous, who said that those who are "talking negative things about Mr. Fethullah Gulen" have never had any personal experiences with the Gulen movement. I have visited Gulen schools in Amsterdam, and in Istanbul, and my kids attended a Gulen school here in the U.S. I have known numerous people in the movement and others whom the movement had tried to convert. So don't try using this as an argument. The article "Fethullah Gulen's Grand Ambition" may not have said what you want to hear about the Gulenites but it was accurate and Gulen is a fraud and a charlatan, and you my friend are a coward just like the rest of his deluded followers. You operate in secrecy, and think you are so smart, but you and your movement are going to fail! Everyone has a right to FREEDOM and you will not succeed in taking it away from us. That is what your movement is about, and I pray every day that the "good" people of Turkey will wake up to their critical position and cast out the Gulenites and regain their freedom. Gulen should be expelled from America, and should stand trial in Turkey for trying to destroy their Constitution. And why don't you Mr. Anonymous try to obtain a tiny bit of courage and use your real name?

GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...

Kelly,

Thank you for your comment and courage. Of all the posts on my blog this one has created one of the most ongoing battles. I find "Anonymous" to be passive-aggressive types and I have little respect for them; however, if their comments expose who they are...all the best-doc

Anonymous said...

Fethullah Gulen is the honorary president of the Rumi Forum, an interfaith dialogue community.

Anonymous said...

Gulen is a pure EVIL!!!!

The contry of Turkey is a lost case in a break of a civil war, poor Turkish people.

But the real danger is here in the US this guy is so powerful and he is poising our American youth. What is next!!! government should stop his activities here in US.

He believes you took counties not with terror but with education. He is a Muslim Extremist agains all secular western civilizations.

WAKEUP USA!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Again and again and again, the article that is being references is a biased article. In fact it can't be considered as an article due to the fact that it has references from newspapers :). Please visit the following links to get more information about Fethullah Gulen from the highly trusted sources.
Turkish Schools Offer Pakistan a Gentler Vision of Islam(NY Times)

Features
A modern Ottoman (Prospect Magazine)

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Accurate information about the Gulen Movement can be found at Rumi Forum

Rustam said...

Kelly at least have some respect to people who think differently than you are. Your aggressiveness causes doubts on your views because you are not objective and driven by emotions. I hope it comes just from your ignorance. ,.my name is Rustam, I graduated from one of his schools in 2005 and since then pursuing my own path in business. I don't care whatever is said in address of Gulen, I just pray to God for his health because a lot of my friends and relatives would ended up as criminals without his schools. You just don't know the criminal environment and spiritual crisis in former soviet union countries! Gulens schools teach discipline and basic human ethic values, i am not telling you as an observer i am telling you my destiny and destiny of thousands young people from my country and they would tell you the same!

Anonymous said...

There are other sources from which you may learn about Fethullah Gulen such as www.gulenmovement.us
I recommend visit such web sites for fair judgment.