Defeating Radical Islam

Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | 9/5/2008

Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Brigitte Gabriel, who started her career as an anchor for World News, an evening Arabic news program in the Middle East. As a terrorism expert and the founder of the nonprofit organization ACT! for America, Brigitte Gabriel travels widely and speaks regularly on topics related to the Middle East. She has addressed audiences at the FBI, the United States Special Operations Command, the Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, and the Joint Forces Staff College, among others. She is the author of the new book, They Must Be Stopped: Why We Must Defeat Radical Islam and How We Can Do It
FP: Brigitte Gabriel, welcome back to Frontpage Interview.


Gabriel: Thank you Jamie. I am delighted to be back with you again.


FP: What inspired this book?


Gabriel: After writing my first book, “Because They Hate,” which tells my personal experiences facing Islamic terror and is a warning to people in the West, I realized that I must go even further defining the threat we face and follow up the warning with solutions and a call to action. “Because They Hate” paved the way and prepared readers for me to take the gloves off and really define in outright terms what we and all non-Muslims are really facing. Events following the first book dramatically enabled me substantiate the underlying motivation behind Islamic terror and Islamic goals and aspirations. I felt that the additional dearth of historically proven implications of these goals can be ignored only at our own peril. Everyone must become informed and mobilized to stop them before it is too late.


FP: You title one of your chapters, Purists Drink Their Islam Straight. Tell us a little bit about what this means.


Gabriel: This is a straightforward inside look at a devout enemy motivated by religion who is willing to destroy the whole world in order to achieve our complete submission under Islam. I do not mince words. What we are calling radical Muslims are nothing more than devout purists. I quote the Koran verse after verse using the same words these terrorists use in their speeches and their videos. We have turned a deaf ear and pretend that this couldn't be true for too long. I use a publicly suppressed and potentially volatile Pentagon intelligence study on the source of Islamic extremism to substantiate the fact that it is the Koran, the holy Islamic book, that is driving them. It is the religion itself, straight from the mouth of the Prophet Mohammed, the perfect man, according to Muslims. It is not yet politically correct to talk about a religious war. But this is exactly what we are facing: a religious war declared by devout Muslims. The Islam of Mohammed is back. It’s not radical Islam. It is not Wahhabi Islam, it’s Mohammed’s original Islam. We are committing cultural suicide by turning a blind eye to the danger Islam continually spells out.

FP: What exactly is a moderate Muslim?

Gabriel: A moderate Muslim is a non-practicing Muslim. A non-practicing or non-devout Muslim is a man who doesn't pray 5 times a day, does drink alcohol, doesn't attend a mosque regularly, believes he is equal to all other people and God's creation. Does not believe that Apostates should be killed. He believes that people have the freedom to chose what religion they want to belong to. He does not believe that Jihad should be declared on non Muslims until they convert or pay the Jizya. He believes that gays should not be killed according to Sharia Law even if he disagrees with their lifestyle. He believes that his wife is his equal and is entitled to the same respect and education as any other man; that she is not his property according to the Koran; that she should not be covered from head to toe or even wear a hijab; that he does not have the right to beat her just because he is a man and she is a woman, that Jews are his equals in the eyes of God.


Most moderate Muslims do not know the real teaching of the Koran and many of them have never read it. In debates between the moderates and the radicals about the Koran, the radical always win the arguments because Islamic law is on their side. They can quote you chapter and verse from the Koran to support their arguments while the moderates just sit speechless not knowing how to respond.


FP: What is the Muslim Brotherhood project for North America?


Gabriel: The Muslim Brotherhood project for North America is a detailed document found in Switzerland in 2001. It details a 100 year plan for radical Islam to infiltrate and dominate the West. This document became known in the Intelligence circles as “The Project”. The plan was conceived and written by the Muslim Brotherhood which is the world's oldest and most sophisticated Islamic terrorist group created in Egypt in 1928. The Muslim Brotherhood boasts seventy off shoot terrorist organizations operating throughout the world.


The project was dated 1982 and it details strategies and tactics by which Islamists can gradually infiltrate nations and ultimately dominate the world with Islamic political and religious ideology. Some of the most alarming ideas outlined are: incitement to hate and commit violent acts against Jewish, Christian and other non-Muslim entities; using methods other than violence to implement cultural Jihad, and establishing a rapport with western communities until trust is won and Islam is established. The project's intentions have been implemented throughout the world since its creation.


FP: You discuss an emerging Islamonazi army all around the world. Tell us about this frightening phenomenon.


Gabriel: The world now faces a new generation of students being indoctrinated into hatred, violence and jihad. Madrassas (Islamic schools) all over the world have paved the way and set the standards for such radical education. From Saudi Arabia to Spain, Britain to Bahrain, America to Australia, Islamic madrassas now operating in nineteen world capitals preaching intolerance and fostering an environment of hate, loathing and resentment toward Western culture, Christians, Jews, Shiites, secular Muslims and non-Muslims.

Since 1973, wealth from oil revenues has allowed the Saudis to spread the strict original Islam of Mohammad throughout the world by financing Islamic madrassas. Saudi textbooks frequently quote verses from the Koran or Hadith that condemn non-Muslims, especially Christians and Jews. In many instances, the verse will direct the reader to commit murder in the name of Allah. There are roughly 225 Islamic madrassas registered in the United States. This is what is contributing to the radicalization of Muslims born and bread in England, Canada, America and Australia who want to kill their follow countrymen in the name of Islam.


FP: There are Madrassas and Islamic schools in America that are actually using Americans’ tax money to teach their pedagogy. This is quite incredible. What is happening here and why?


Gabriel: Radical Islamic influence in America’s educational system reaches beyond the university level into grade schools and high schools, both public and private. Islamic schools in America teach almost 50,000 students per year. Many of them are breeding grounds for Jihad and are financed with American Taxpayer's money. I give many examples in the book about such schools. One is the Islamic Academy of Florida, a private school for grades one through twelve in Tampa Bay. In 2003 the academy received more than $350,000 worth of taxpayer-funded school vouchers to help underprivileged children attend their school. In the same year a federal grand jury in Tampa issued a fifty-count indictment against the academy for being an affiliate of the Muslim Brotherhood organization Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The indictment claimed the academy was helping support the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and its mission of murder and violence by raising funds through school vouchers and fundraisers.


Another Islamic day school, the American Youth Academy was awarded in 2005, $325,000 of taxpayer money for its elementary/secondary school program. In addition, $2,500 was awarded to the school for each child enrolled in their pre-kindergarten programs.


The Islamic Academy of Florida and the American Youth Academy are prime examples of Islamic terrorists and their associates operating right under our noses. The amazing thing is that taxpayers were unintentionally funding the overseas murders of innocent citizens, including Americans.


FP: You talk about Jihad Camps in America. What are they and how are we allowing this to happen on our own shores?


Gabriel: The Muslim Brotherhood in America is creative and far reaching in its attempts to spread the world of Allah and hatred for infidels. They are now indoctrinating young Muslim children into radicalism in boy scouts and summer camps. At some of those “Summer Camps” children spend their afternoons sitting indoors, listening to speakers that preach “the way of Jihad” for true believers of Islam. Speakers usually are well known in the field of radical Islam and instruct Muslim youth on the mission of Jihad. Before 9/11, administrators and campers would refer to these camps as “jihad camps.” In the post 9/11 atmosphere, ICNA, MAS, MSA, YM, and YMS are much more cautious about making any references to jihad. The camps are now touted as retreats for Muslim children to learn about their heritage. Some speakers have prepared Muslim youth for their deaths with presentations such as “Preparation for Death,” by Dr. Nouman Ali Khan, “The Life in the Grave,” by Imam Badawi, and “Do You Want Paradise?” by Br. Jawad Ahmad. Ahmad began his lecture with the words, “This should be our goal in life, I want to go to Jannah [paradise].” They are using our laws and freedoms in preparing a new generation of martyrs and we are allowing it to happen in the name of multiculturalism and diversity.


FP: Are we winning or losing the fight against Islamic Jihad?


Gabriel: Right now we are in the middle of this fight militarily, socially and psychologically. Jamie, history and Viet Cong generals tell us that we were winning the war in Vietnam in the 60's, but because leftists, communist sympathizers and the media told us we were loosing, we ended up loosing. Now we are seeing the same dynamics all over again with Islamic jihad. We are winning on the battle field in Iraq and being defeated here at home. Because of our lack of national solidarity here in America we are giving the enemy confidence and strengthening their resolve making things drag on and loosing more soldiers in the field. This political and ideological division along with our apathy, ignorance, materialism and short sightedness are working against us. We must match our enemy's religious resolve for subjugation with a united secular resolve for freedom.


FP: How can we stop this threat to our western societies? What can the average individual do?


Gabriel: History reveals very clearly that the apathetic give way to the passionate and the complacent are subdued by the committed. This is why I founded ACT! for America, www.actforamerica.org. ACT! For America is mobilizing people all over the country and giving them the tools to resist the Islamic infiltration in our society on every level: schools, government, universities, and corporations. We now have 200 chapters across America and and tens of thousands or members.


We are now conducting “citizens Action training” seminars all over the country to give people the tools and knowledge to mobilize effectively.


Organized power at the grass-roots level will trump the voices of political correctness and be more powerful than the establishment media. A good example of this is the demise of the immigration reform legislation in the U.S. Congress in 2007. In spite of support from the media, the political left, and even some on the political right, the proposed legislation was shelved due to the outcry of citizens across America. In short, the voice of grass-roots America triumphed over the voice of the elite.


We are not waiting for this phenomenon to occur in the war against Islamofascism. We are not simply hoping for a spontaneous grass-roots eruption that may or may not come. We are making it occur by organizing ACT! for America chapters and supporters across America. We will force elected representatives to choose – align themselves with the voice of grass-roots America or the voice of political correctness. We just launched our Congressional score cards and voter education project. We keep tabs on bills we consider important to our national security and the threat of Islamofascism. We research how each congressman and senator votes on these bills. People can download the scorecards from our website or obtain hard copies from ACT! for America chapter activists. We make it easy for every voter in America to know exactly how their congressmen and senators voted. I encourage every person reading this interview to join us by going to www.actforamerica.org. We have now launched ACT! Australia, ACT! Canada, ACT! Nigeria, and in the process of establishing chapters in Britain, France, Israel, The Netherlands, and Spain.


FP: Do you ever fear for your own personal safety? From where do you get your courage?


Gabriel: I wouldn't be human if I didn't fear for my safety especially when I receive threats and have Al-Qaida discussing me on their Internet website saying I'm fighting Islam. Talk like that tends to fire up the die-hard Islamists. And I don't want to be an easy target for their wrath. I take the security measures required to insure my safety and that of my family. I go to great length organizing security when I speak or travel publicly. However I know what is at stake and why it is so important to speak out boldly and loudly right now before it is too late. As to where I get my courage? My parents taught me to stand up for that which is right even though sometimes the right thing to do wasn't the most popular. I reflect back on talks around the dinner table about things my father was doing as a government official and the flack he was getting for doing them even though they were the right things to do. I vividly remember my childhood and the suffering I went through as my parents and I lived in a bomb shelter for 7 years. Those memories give me the courage to continue on and insure this will never happen again to me or to my children. I know what is at stake. I do not want history repeating itself. I lost my country of birth, Lebanon, to radical Islam, I do not want to lose my adopted country America.


FP: Who are your heroes in the world today?


Gabriel: My parents will always be my number one heroes. Having grown up in a country that did nothing for my security, I would say my next heroes are our military generals like David Petraeus, Thomas McInerney, Paul Vallely and the many others like them and those who serve under them and on whose shoulders America's freedom has been preserved. Other heroes as well are the few Muslims and former Muslims speaking out laying their life on the line to do so like Ayan Hirsi Ali, Zuhdi Jasser and others.

FP: Brigitte Gabriel, that you for joining us.

Gabriel: Thank you Jamie.


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Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine's managing editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He edited and wrote the introduction to David Horowitz’s Left Illusions. He is also the co-editor (with David Horowitz) of The Hate America Left and the author of Canadian Policy Toward Khrushchev’s Soviet Union (McGill-Queens University Press, 2002) and 15 Tips on How to be a Good Leftist. To see his previous symposiums, interviews and articles Click Here. Email him at jglazov@rogers.com.