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Tuesday, April 27, 2010

"Cartoonist Molly Norris Erases 'Draw Muhammad' Gag,"

Jihad Watch

Cartoonist behind "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" backs down: "I said that I wanted to counter fear and then I got afraid"

"The only thing we have to fear..." An update on this story. "Cartoonist Molly Norris Erases 'Draw Muhammad' Gag," from MyFox9, April 26 (thanks to all who sent this in):

(CANVAS STAFF REPORTS) - In more fallout around the decision by Comedy Central to censor an episode of "South Park" that contained comedic depictions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, a cartoonist has now censored herself .

Seattle artist Molly Norris originally posted on her website a cartoon showing many different objects - including a purse, a domino, a coffee cup and a spool of thread - claiming to be a likeness of Muhamma Norris said that May 20 would be the first annual "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" and created a fictional group, Citizens Against Citizens Against Humor, to sponsor the event. She dedicated the illustration to Matt Stone and Trey Parker, the creators of "South Park."

She sent the illustration to some bloggers and talked to a local radio host, saying "it's a cartoonist's job to be non-PC."

Now Norris has backed off from that position. She no longer has the illustration on her website and she claims responses to the idea were overwhelming. Instead she has a drawing of herself, with various word balloons containing her feelings about the incident, including "I said that I wanted to counter fear and then I got afraid."

Too late: the paints and brushes await:

But she may have started something she can't stop. Others have taken up the cause of "Everybody Draw Muhammed Day."

Reason.com's blogger Michael C. Moynihan says he will be contributing artwork and will post fans' work on his site as well. The fictional group Citizens Against Citizens Against Humor now has its own site that already contains some irreverent illustrations of Muhammad.

A Facebook page devoted to "Draw Muhammad Day" has followed Norris's lead and backed away from the idea, but fans on the site are still arguing about it.

A rival Facebook page, Ban Draw Muhammad Day , also contains ongoing arguments on both sides of the issue.

On Sunday night's episode of "The Simpsons", the "South Park" issue was mentioned in the opening credits when Bart writes on the chalkboard in school. The chalkboard scrawl reads: "South Park - We'd stand beside you if we weren't so scared."

In the words of Homer himself: "[You] found my one weakness: that I'm weak! "

Comment: Are there no people with courage any more-what a coward!!!

16 comments:

Anonymous said...: I've been following this story closely too. At first, I was thinking of what a brave young woman she was. Standing up for Freedom of Speech and all that. Now I'm wondering why she bothered. Is it possible she never thought anything would come of it. Maybe blogs allow us that little space to journal, knowing 20-50 people are checking it out in a day, and then suddenlyit goes viral. From anonymous to nation's news - I think she just got spooked.; 5:28 PM
Anonymous said...: You people think your brave with coming out with ideas like this and this is what leads to hatred towards religiion and this is what is creating the wars in teh world. Then when some sort of attack occurs, including terrorist attacks...everyone backs away and weeps. having no fear doesnt mean stand up and fight for freedom of speech.. coz drawing pictures isnt freedom of speech. having no fear is being able to stand up to a muslim and say, we are wrong. and here is our apology.thats strength and thats character.; 2:18 PM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Anonymous-this speaks to your bravery, not giving us your name. "You people", hmm I guess you mean those of us willing to challenge Islam-this does not require bravery, rather it demands integrity.You know as well as so many of us now know, these actions are not thecause for hateful acts by Muslims against the non-Muslim population, they are used as a "justification"!

In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest days overlapped 10 days. Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10 countries during this time...while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize.; 4:31 PM
Anonymous said...: don noris- what do u know about the rest of the world or should i say muslim world. i m a muslim, and i hate the idea of being extreme, i had argument with my muslim friends about this issue. i chose to ignore it totaly, but for curosity i went through some web sites read a few comments, i can feel the anger that slowly building up inside me for insulting mohammed(pbuh), you know what i acctualy can understand how some of these events like this one creat extremist and provoke anger from a peace loving comunity. well i aint bothered about what u guys say, my policy is "i respect u, i wont harm u, i will help if u need it but all under one condition do the same to me". but mark my word its hard to always follow it, but i m very tolerant. so ur comments about muslims attacking or their terror attacks... go and live ur life in those countries, live a life that those ppl live... then i would like u to try to make a comment like that. btw this will be my first and last message about this stupendous idea started by molly. coz more i want to write more i will be involve.. more i get involve more anger will buildup inside me.... more anger will lead me to hate ppl... and i dont want that.; 7:13 PM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Anonymous-why do you not identify yourself-you mispell my name, make outrageous charges and then justify violence because you get upset by reading words-do you not understand how absurd this is? I am angry that in the name of Islam your people have murdered thousands upon thousands of my people, I am angered with those who insult me by wanting to put a 13 story mosque at the site of the twin towers BUT I will not go kill anyone because I am upset or have my feelings hurt. How barbaric and you ask me to understand-no more!I stand against such barbaric thinking and senseless acts of violence-enough of your threats, you do not ...; 9:00 AM
Anonymous said...: regardless u say muslims are killers and blah blah ... u r doing no good either uve created nothing but so much hatred between muslims and non muslims just coz of ur stupid act ..its time to remove differences between ppl of diff religions .. but ppl like U i mean molly and frnds creating hatred and helping terrorist ...giving them reasons and chances to present arguments in their favor infornt of young muslims that they join them .. i hate MollyNoris for not only disrespecting my religion but infact not respecting any religion; 4:46 PM
A-K said...: Look who is talking and from where who is the current biggest terrorist state of so-called
Israel) he is talking. Those who murdered thousands of innocent Palestinians by giving the reason that someone else did the same with them (even if it was the reason then they should do it to Europe who was the responsible for it). And please just read history books again and if you are talking about the thousands of killing of your people [even the number you tell, there are many statistics who deny it, but then you do not allow to speak about it because then the so-called FREEDOM OF SPEACH disappear somewhere) it was the Christian Europe who did this to you and to other hundreds of thousands of people.
And you should also upset most with Christian Europe and Christian US as the Hilter was also a Christian by religion, was not he???; 11:31 PM
Unknown said...: GS Don Morris, Ph.D. listen chief, your people were not winning nobel prizes, they were blowing coke and did you hear about the rabbis in secaucus, NJ who were forcing people to sell their body parts to them for free?! its ok though because I helped arreset them and put them in jail were they belong. Anonymous is being nice to you and your being a dick to him. Muslims don't kill jews, trust me chief I nailed more Jewish girls in college than you ever had in your life, infact I probably nailed most of them while you were out getting your phd haha, take care and peace be upon you ya habibi!; 2:10 AM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Again anonymous you refuse to identify yourself-you again justify violence because someone dares to ask questions,to use only words-this is one reason why so many people in the world question the notion that Islam is a religion of peace and you are certainly validating their concerns.; 6:11 AM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Ahmed-I really do not have to write anything-your words speak to who you are-you made all my points with this "glowing" report of your character-thank you; 6:27 AM
Anonymous said...: your way of ''FREEDOM of Speech'' is hurting others religious views and then sayin''oh..they cudnt take our views,,how childihs???''?? ..if you give that much freedom..why is there a ban on hijabs and full faced veils to muslim citizens? Where is your freedom of speech then??; 9:29 AM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Anonymous-again you make my point-if someone disagrees with you the response is name calling. Perhaps this is a cultural concept, freedom of speech in the West allows for disagreements-perhaps you disagree with this, fine-however, to suggest that this hurts others religious views is untrue-as I say, you very clearly make my point-thank you; 9:49 AM
achmadbachtiar said...: I'm Moslem, Indonesian moslem, it is wise if we think twice if we put/ do something that could be have effect to others..be careful and be wise..; 11:18 AM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: So, words merit a threat-again, thank you for making my point; 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...: sorry molly, but you prolly end up like the van goh douch, and i cant say i feel bad for you, why would you insult a peoples religion? why? screw "free speech" we both know that free speech is supposed to be used against the tyranny and oppression of corrupt govts, not to be used to insult and humiliate and alienated 1.8 billion people. you have made your bed, now you will face the consequences, too bad "free speech" cant protect you for the rest of your life...; 11:20 PM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Anonymous-hiding with no name, making threats no longer causes us fear-what it does is reveal who you are and what you stand for-you lack integrity and have no idea what freedom of speech means-we will no longer back down to your evil.; 6:14 AM

The IDF’s Minorities in Numbers and Pictures

In honor of IDF Diversity Week, we present diversity through numbers and pictures. Each year, more and more Muslims, Christians, Druze, Bedouin and immigrants from around the world take on the responsibility of defending Israel.

MUSLIMS:

Muslim Arab Israelis are not required to draft in the IDF, but there are many who volunteer. In 2013, there were over 200 Muslims serving in the IDF and over 300 in the reserves.

Bedouins:

Bedouins are nomadic Muslims who were in Israel when modern borders were set in place and are now considered Israeli citizens. They are not required to draft but a growing number choose to enlist. In 2012, there were over 1,400 Bedouin Muslim soldiers doing regular IDF service and almost 1,500 in the reserves.

Read more:http://www.idfblog.com/2014/02/27/truth-idf-numbers-pictures/#more-34027

Are you aware that in 2013, Middle class taxes go up-significantly?

In January of next year, the federal income tax rate for middle-class taxpayers is scheduled to rise from 25 percent to 28 percent, and the payroll tax is scheduled to rise from 13.3 percent to 15.3 percent… This drives the marginal tax rate based on the aforementioned three taxes to 48.12 percent. Add in state and local property, corporate, excise, and other state and local taxes, and the percentage of each additional dollar that is taxed hovers around 50 percent… When half of each additional dollar earned is taxed away, taxpayers experience a disincentive to start businesses or expand existing ones. This leads to fewer jobs being created.

Why is HAMAS Inside Tampa Schools?

Clare Lopez

Kelly Miliziano, who teaches history classes at Steinbrenner High School in the Tampa, Florida area apparently thinks it’s perfectly OK to invite a senior official of a HAMAS-affiliated organization into her classroom to discuss Islam with her students. According to local media reports, not only has this been going on for years, but in spite of the civil and criminal proceedings that could result from such reckless negligence, the Hillsborough County school superintendent, Mary Ellen Elia, and the chairman of the school board, Candy Olson, also expressed approval for students under their responsibility to be exposed repeatedly to guest speaker, Hassan Shibly, who is the Executive Director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) in the Tampa area.
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Did You Know... Ignoring the Call to Islam will Bring Jihad

‘Conquest through Da’wa [proselytizing] that is what we hope for. We will conquer Europe, we will conquer America! Not through sword but through Da’wa.’
-- Yousef al-Qaradawi , Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader The Arabic word ‘Da’wa’ means the “call to Islam.” But do not think that Da’wa is the same thing as an invitation to an optional holiday event. The classical Islamic doctrine of jihad mandates that enemies must be given the opportunity to convert to Islam or pay the jizya tax before it is permissible to attack them.
Clare M. Lopez

Who is being discriminated-facts tell the truth

Religious bias

Hate crimes motivated by religious bias accounted for 1,409 offenses reported by law enforcement. A breakdown of the bias motivation of religious-bias offenses showed:

65.4 percent were anti-Jewish.
13.2 percent were anti-Islamic.
9.5 percent were anti-other religion, i.e., those not specified.
4.3 percent were anti-Catholic.
3.8 percent were anti-multiple religions, group.
3.3 percent were anti-Protestant.
0.5 percent were anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-crime-2010-incidents-and-offenses.

On March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview

with PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

In March 1977, Zahir Muhsein, a PLO executive, said:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism."

"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

The Arab Apartheid

Ben-Dror Yemini
In 1948, the Arab countries refused to accept the UN partition proposal and they launched a war of annihilation against the State of Israel which had barely been established. All precedents in this matter showed that the party that starts the war - and with a declaration of annihilation, yet - pays a price for it. Between 550,000 and 710,000 Arabs fled because of the war and a larger number of 850,000 Jews were expelled or fled from Arab countries (the "Jewish nakba").
Population exchanges and expulsions were the norm at that time, occurring in dozens of other conflict points and affecting about 52 million people. In all the population exchange precedents that occurred during or at the end of an armed conflict, there was no return of refugees to the previous region, which had turned into a new national state.
Only the Arab states acted completely differently from the rest of the world. Instead of assimilating the refugees, they crushed them despite the fact that they were their coreligionists and members of the Arab nation - instituting a regime of apartheid. So the "nakba" was not caused by the actual dispossession, which had also been experienced by tens of millions of others. The "nakba" is the story of the apartheid, oppression, abuse and denial of rights suffered by the Arab refugees at the hands of the Arab countries. (Maariv)

International Law and Military Operations in Practice - Col. Richard Kemp

"Islamist fighting groups study the international laws of armed conflict carefully and they understand it well. They know that a British or Israeli commander and his men are bound by international law and the rules of engagement that flow from it. They then do their utmost to exploit what they view as one of their enemy's main weaknesses. Their very modus operandi is built on the correct assumption that Western armies will normally abide by the rules, while these insurgents employ a deliberate policy of operating consistently outside international law. "

Lost Historical Moments

What Rabin’s last Knesset speech really said:repudiation of a Palestinian state

Rabin ruled out a fully sovereign Palestinian state :

“We view the permanent solution in the framework of State of Israel which will include most of the area of the Land of Israel as it was under the rule of the British Mandate, and alongside it a Palestinian entity which will be a home to most of the Palestinian residents living in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state, and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority.”

Rabin ruled out a total withdrawal from Judea and Samaria and thus a return to the pre-June 1967 borders :

“The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines.”

Rabin ruled out withdrawing form the Jordan Valley:

“The security border of the State of Israel will be located in the Jordan Valley, in the broadest meaning of that term.”

Rabin ruled out uprooting settlement blocs, like the Gush Katif bloc in Gaza (which was subsequently uprooted by former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon):

“The establishment of blocs of settlements in Judea and Samaria, like the one in Gush Katif.

AND

Rabin ruled out removing any settlement before coming to a full peace agreement with the Palestinians:

“I want to remind you: we committed ourselves, that is, we came to an agreement, and committed ourselves before the Knesset, not to uproot a single settlement in the framework of the interim agreement, and not to hinder building for natural growth.”

Rabin insisted on Israel retaining full security control of the borders with Egypt and Jordan, contrary to Israel’s relinquishment of the Philadelphia Corridor on the border with Egypt:

“The responsibility for external security along the borders with Egypt and Jordan, as well as control over the airspace above all of the territories and Gaza Strip maritime zone, remains in our hands.”

Correcting Oslo Myths-Part 2

3) Kuttab laments that the post-1993 Oslo process resulted in a Palestinian Authority "whose ministers and legislators are not guaranteed passage between Gaza and the West Bank ...."

Before free passage or other perquisites, PA leaders were obligated, among other things, to eliminate the terrorist infrastructure in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, end anti-Israeli, antisemitic incitement in schools, mosques, and communications media, and resolve all outstanding issues through peaceful negotiations. They met none of these commitments, sometimes bolstering terrorism and greatly increasing incitement.

4) Kuttab complains that under Oslo the PA got "lightly armed police ---- but no real sovereignty over the land or contiguity between our communities in Gaza and the West Bank."

Oslo agreements repeatedly were revised, regardless of Palestinian non-compliance, until the authorized number of police grew from 8,000 to 40,000. Though they were to be the only armed forces in the territories, Israeli estimates early in the second intifada put the number of gunmen - police, "security services," terrorists, and armed gangs - at 85,000. Their armament reportedly included not only heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, but also anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

Sovereignty was to be negotiated in the envisioned 1998 "final status" talks - after a five-year period of confidence-building. Palestinian leadership chronically undermined the process. Palestinian terrorism made the 1993 - 1998 Oslo period more deadly for Israelis than the 15 years preceding it.

The United States doesn't have contiguity between the lower 48 states and Alaska and Hawaii; territorial contiguity between the West Bank and Gaza Strip - that is, through the 20 miles of Israeli territory between them - was never promised and would destroy Israeli contiguity.

5) "Palestinians have been made to endure hundreds of checkpoints in the West Bank, an eight-foot wall deep in our territories, and tight Israeli control over borders."

The security barrier is not "deep in Palestinian territories," but rather encompasses less than 8 percent of Judea and Samaria, and is mostly a fence, rarely a wall; the land in question is not "our [Palestinian] territories" but disputed territory to which, according to the authors of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, Jews as well as Arabs have claims; and there are no international borders, only the 1949 armistice lines with Jordan. Under 242, borders remain to be negotiated. As for checkpoints - like the security barrier and "tight Israeli control" - Palestinian Arabs precipitated these measures themselves. No terrorism and there would be no fence or tight Israeli control and few checkpoints - like before the first intifada.

Correcting Some Oslo Myths

1) In Oslo "Israeli, Palestinian and other world leaders promised that ... Palestinian sovereignty would be solidified."

No, they didn't. The 1993 Declaration of Principles and subsequent Oslo agreements outlined a process by which final status negotiations about the West Bank and Gaza Strip would be reached. The process required an end to anti-Israel terrorism and incitement and a commitment to peaceful negotiations. The PA, Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and other terrorist groups, sabotaged the process from the start.

2) "The reality is that, in defiance of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, which states that it is inadmissible to occupy land by force, Palestinian territories are still under foreign military occupation."
Wrong again. Resolution 242 (1967) does note "the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war." It also affirms the right of every state in the area "to live in peace with secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." There were no "Palestinian territories." Jordan occupied the West Bank, Egypt controlled Gaza. Israel did not have "secure and recognized boundaries," so retention of some of those territories was possible under 242. Israel is not a "foreign" military occupier in the West Bank but, pending final negotiations, the lawful military administrator as a result of a successful war of self-defense.

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