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Wednesday, July 13, 2011

Friend of Israel? You decide

PRESS BLACK-OUT, OBAMA INVITED AND HILLARY CLINTON HOSTED JULY 11th DINNER TO DISCUSS ISRAEL WITH REPS OF THE QUARTET, ARAB LEAGUE, CHINA AND RUSSIA, IN ISRAEL'S ABSENCE.

Israel Lives

On July 11, President Barack Obama invited the other members of the Quartet-Russia, the UN, and the EU-as well as representatives from China and the Arab League, to the White House for a summit on OIsrael. Following the meetings, a dinner that lasted over two hours was held for the participants. Did you hear a word about it in the media? I certainly didn't. Why? The White House had imposed a media ban on the event. U. S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton hosted the dinner. I am hard-pressed to find a time in American history when a trusted ally was ever treated so shabbily. Israel is the best friend America has and to NOT invite Israel to a summit which will affect her future-and the future of Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria-is evil.

Why has President Obama not convened a summit on Iran, a country whose leaders are determined to wipe Israel from the map? It's simple; he believes that Israel is the second greatest destabilization force in the Middle East after Al Qaeda. He made this clear in his Cairo speech:

The second major source of tension that we need to discuss is the situation between Israelis, Palestinians, and the Arab world.

In approximately two weeks, on July 26, the United Nations Security Council will hold an open "debate" on whether or not Israel's land will be seized in September and Jerusalem divided by the establishment of a Palestinian state. This would be done without negotiation or approval from Israel. Spokespersons from the Arab League have stated they will seek UN membership for a Palestinian state in the Gaza Strip, West Bank, and with East Jerusalem as its capital. We must stand with Israel now against this evil plan.

According to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, "President Obama says he wants to see an independent Palestinian state by September." This indicates that Mr. Obama may not veto this blatant land grab. No wonder Palestinian leaders are so confident of success that they are willing to seize the moment.

It is highly likely that Israeli leaders would refuse to recognize the UN move and decline to forfeit their land. The Palestinians would probably declare war on Israel with the whole world lining up on their side. As of today, 116 of the 192 UN member states are willing to recognize a Palestinian state. ..and it goes on.

8 comments:

Unknown said...: U gotta b kidding....."a trusted ally" never been treated so shabbily???? Isreals land will b taken w/o Isreals imput......HA u zionistsneed to jump in a hole and bury yourselves. Amazing u think the rest of the world has no grasp on history. I pray to god Obama has the courage, and good sense to tell Isreal to go tyo hell and fight their own fights w/o dragging the united states into them. Free up some of the land u stole in palistine and learn to live in peace. U r an idiot zionist!!!!!!!
Fred; 6:54 AM
Anonymous said...: This American and veteran stands with America. Go wave your israeli flag elsewhere... Preferably in israel.; 7:00 AM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Fred, thanks for reading my blog, I do appreciate it. Your anger only transcends your historical ignorance. You mention "grasp of history", whose writings/reporting,analysis do you read? If you want to curb your obvious anger and have a historical debate, than write a piece and I'll consider posting it-ranting "talking points" and ranting on with name calling only demonstrates your true bigoted posture.; 8:14 AM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: Anonymous,
Glad you served your country and it is wonderful that you understand the freedom you served for-this nation was built upon many values of substance. What is really underneath or behind your waving flag elsewhere, you dislike what-exactly?You think one does not stand with America because questions are asked, this is a bit naive don't you think? Wishing you the best-d; 8:18 AM
Unknown said...: Don thanks 4 ur response. I am not bigoted, just responding to ur outragous claim that a trusted ally has never been treated so badly. u got to kidding. What on earth has transpired of late with ur Bibi insulting and subverting my leader? y do u think the US doesn't have the right to request/require Isreal to respect agreements in regards to Sumaria and jedea.....Palistine....common don't act as though the histoy is clean and unsullied by Isreal and the Zionists in Isreal. I am tired of hering u whine when u truly do act, the current govt running Isreal, Bibi. Talk about a leader shitting on his frinds. Isreal has pushed my limit too far now. Your govt actions with . especially the first floatilla, and its obvious involvement in sabotaging the second, along with all the expansion in the teritories, ect ect ect. Then u claim the US govt is treating Isreal, a trusted friend, shabbily? Common!!!! I am an american who has always supported Isreal. But your current govt, bibi in particular has exposed tome a side of Isreal i cannot support. I am not blind and stupid. Isreal is expanding and disregarding all international agreements which, over the last decade, it has promised to abide by. Ur country, led by a man who I see as a madman, has pushed the probability of additional wars upon my countries doorstep and i don't like it. My reading of the facts and the wikileak docs on Pal/isreal negotiations revels an intreched nation unwilling to move an inch toward peace. all the while crying about y the world is against them. I have come to a new belief in Isreal, one that cannot be allayed until ur Bibi quits his zionist expansion and truly moves toward peace. your warmongering, financced by US money and prestige, threatens my country because your foolish and selfish EXHIBITED policies will force us to back u. I don't want to anymore--u r out of control. Zionism is at the root of Isreal's policies and peace isn't in your interest. at least not bibis Isreal . I cannot support thatw/o accoutability 4 who is driving this conflict. And u claim yourself to be a trusted friend. PLEAS actions speak louder than words. It is time, in my biased american opinion, 4 our govt to demand certain respect from Isreal, for the friendship we have exibited to u through vetosin the u n, money and military support. U can dislike american resistance to the way ur Isreal has been conducting itself, but u r way out of line to degrade and characterize my president as ussupportive. Please; 8:50 AM
Unknown said...: By the way i like all peter sellers movies, avatar is my favorite movie, rnr and jazz 2. I don't hate the fact ur isreali--I dislike in the strongest terms what i see bibi doing to the landscape of the mideast----and the implications that has for me, my country, and the world. By the way, theEagles r my fav band, bob segar 2 :); 9:05 AM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: First unknown-why is it you won't id yourself when you make such atrocious statements,not grounded in truth? Your language and your command of grammar and spelling suggests you may be other than an American but I will respond this final time. I do not know what history or what "legal agreements" you refer to when discussing the disputed territories. Yes, if you know legal history you know the Oslo Accords, you know UN 242 and then you know this land is and has been in legal dispute since 1967.
I understand you have an opinion re: the flotilla, you do not have the right to create facts that are untrue. If you study international law, Israel has the legal right to place a blockade upon Gaza-the flotilla, as has been proven now in international court, broke the law. If you mean to say that when Israeli soldiers boarded the ships with paint guns and were attacked with knives, clubs and thrown over the side this was an act of peace-you are smart enough to know better. Yes, thank G-d our solders carried secondary firearms to protect themselves. Your logic says soldiers acting in accordance with law cannot protect themselves from being killed-you are better than this-use more critical, intelligent arguments to display your hatred.Your source of information is Wikileaks-now I understand. Come, spend time here in Israel, learn another set of facts. Yes, as an American citizen, I, too love my country, I also reside in Israel-you have a jaded perception of what goes on here, you are horribly misinformed about the PM and yes, the Obama Administration,never mind the rhetoric, as I, too, look at actions and his are limited at best-I am being kind.I find it interesting that you find an explanation that blames little ME. I do wish you to continue to read, with a clear mind, this blog as I present ,for you, the other side of the story. I have no intention of changing anyone's mind, I do intend to present corroborated fact-you decide to read and listen to only those promoting an anti-Israel agenda-it is your choice-a freedom we fight for every day.Final comment, best you research the notion of monies before passing erroneous analysi-all the best-d; 12:42 PM
GS Don Morris, Ph.D./Chana Givon said...: So many Unknowns so I cannot direct my reply in an appropriate manner. Thank you for reading my blog, every piece is corroborated by multiple sources unless it is an opinion piece.I appreciate your interest in music, why you say I am Israeli is amazing to me. I am an American citizen,currently spending time in Israel learning first hand, not heresay, not from someone who has an anti-Israel agenda, I am here finding out the facts for myself-I encourage honest brokers of peace to join me here. The easiest comment to make is a generalized dislike with Bibi with no supportive arguments-come on, you are better than this-yes? I also smile, it is what one must do with such ignorant statements, that those folks making such statements ignore totally the behavior, the leadership, the actions of the nations that surround us-thereby by abdicating any sense of responsibility on their part-before entering any reasonably discussion please consider all sides rather than giving all the power to Israel-this is a foolish conclusion and I do not believe you are a foolish person.; 12:52 PM

The IDF’s Minorities in Numbers and Pictures

In honor of IDF Diversity Week, we present diversity through numbers and pictures. Each year, more and more Muslims, Christians, Druze, Bedouin and immigrants from around the world take on the responsibility of defending Israel.

MUSLIMS:

Muslim Arab Israelis are not required to draft in the IDF, but there are many who volunteer. In 2013, there were over 200 Muslims serving in the IDF and over 300 in the reserves.

Bedouins:

Bedouins are nomadic Muslims who were in Israel when modern borders were set in place and are now considered Israeli citizens. They are not required to draft but a growing number choose to enlist. In 2012, there were over 1,400 Bedouin Muslim soldiers doing regular IDF service and almost 1,500 in the reserves.

Read more:http://www.idfblog.com/2014/02/27/truth-idf-numbers-pictures/#more-34027

Are you aware that in 2013, Middle class taxes go up-significantly?

In January of next year, the federal income tax rate for middle-class taxpayers is scheduled to rise from 25 percent to 28 percent, and the payroll tax is scheduled to rise from 13.3 percent to 15.3 percent… This drives the marginal tax rate based on the aforementioned three taxes to 48.12 percent. Add in state and local property, corporate, excise, and other state and local taxes, and the percentage of each additional dollar that is taxed hovers around 50 percent… When half of each additional dollar earned is taxed away, taxpayers experience a disincentive to start businesses or expand existing ones. This leads to fewer jobs being created.

Why is HAMAS Inside Tampa Schools?

Clare Lopez

Kelly Miliziano, who teaches history classes at Steinbrenner High School in the Tampa, Florida area apparently thinks it’s perfectly OK to invite a senior official of a HAMAS-affiliated organization into her classroom to discuss Islam with her students. According to local media reports, not only has this been going on for years, but in spite of the civil and criminal proceedings that could result from such reckless negligence, the Hillsborough County school superintendent, Mary Ellen Elia, and the chairman of the school board, Candy Olson, also expressed approval for students under their responsibility to be exposed repeatedly to guest speaker, Hassan Shibly, who is the Executive Director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) in the Tampa area.
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Did You Know... Ignoring the Call to Islam will Bring Jihad

‘Conquest through Da’wa [proselytizing] that is what we hope for. We will conquer Europe, we will conquer America! Not through sword but through Da’wa.’
-- Yousef al-Qaradawi , Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader The Arabic word ‘Da’wa’ means the “call to Islam.” But do not think that Da’wa is the same thing as an invitation to an optional holiday event. The classical Islamic doctrine of jihad mandates that enemies must be given the opportunity to convert to Islam or pay the jizya tax before it is permissible to attack them.
Clare M. Lopez

Who is being discriminated-facts tell the truth

Religious bias

Hate crimes motivated by religious bias accounted for 1,409 offenses reported by law enforcement. A breakdown of the bias motivation of religious-bias offenses showed:

65.4 percent were anti-Jewish.
13.2 percent were anti-Islamic.
9.5 percent were anti-other religion, i.e., those not specified.
4.3 percent were anti-Catholic.
3.8 percent were anti-multiple religions, group.
3.3 percent were anti-Protestant.
0.5 percent were anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-crime-2010-incidents-and-offenses.

On March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview

with PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

In March 1977, Zahir Muhsein, a PLO executive, said:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism."

"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

The Arab Apartheid

Ben-Dror Yemini
In 1948, the Arab countries refused to accept the UN partition proposal and they launched a war of annihilation against the State of Israel which had barely been established. All precedents in this matter showed that the party that starts the war - and with a declaration of annihilation, yet - pays a price for it. Between 550,000 and 710,000 Arabs fled because of the war and a larger number of 850,000 Jews were expelled or fled from Arab countries (the "Jewish nakba").
Population exchanges and expulsions were the norm at that time, occurring in dozens of other conflict points and affecting about 52 million people. In all the population exchange precedents that occurred during or at the end of an armed conflict, there was no return of refugees to the previous region, which had turned into a new national state.
Only the Arab states acted completely differently from the rest of the world. Instead of assimilating the refugees, they crushed them despite the fact that they were their coreligionists and members of the Arab nation - instituting a regime of apartheid. So the "nakba" was not caused by the actual dispossession, which had also been experienced by tens of millions of others. The "nakba" is the story of the apartheid, oppression, abuse and denial of rights suffered by the Arab refugees at the hands of the Arab countries. (Maariv)

International Law and Military Operations in Practice - Col. Richard Kemp

"Islamist fighting groups study the international laws of armed conflict carefully and they understand it well. They know that a British or Israeli commander and his men are bound by international law and the rules of engagement that flow from it. They then do their utmost to exploit what they view as one of their enemy's main weaknesses. Their very modus operandi is built on the correct assumption that Western armies will normally abide by the rules, while these insurgents employ a deliberate policy of operating consistently outside international law. "

Lost Historical Moments

What Rabin’s last Knesset speech really said:repudiation of a Palestinian state

Rabin ruled out a fully sovereign Palestinian state :

“We view the permanent solution in the framework of State of Israel which will include most of the area of the Land of Israel as it was under the rule of the British Mandate, and alongside it a Palestinian entity which will be a home to most of the Palestinian residents living in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state, and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority.”

Rabin ruled out a total withdrawal from Judea and Samaria and thus a return to the pre-June 1967 borders :

“The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines.”

Rabin ruled out withdrawing form the Jordan Valley:

“The security border of the State of Israel will be located in the Jordan Valley, in the broadest meaning of that term.”

Rabin ruled out uprooting settlement blocs, like the Gush Katif bloc in Gaza (which was subsequently uprooted by former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon):

“The establishment of blocs of settlements in Judea and Samaria, like the one in Gush Katif.

AND

Rabin ruled out removing any settlement before coming to a full peace agreement with the Palestinians:

“I want to remind you: we committed ourselves, that is, we came to an agreement, and committed ourselves before the Knesset, not to uproot a single settlement in the framework of the interim agreement, and not to hinder building for natural growth.”

Rabin insisted on Israel retaining full security control of the borders with Egypt and Jordan, contrary to Israel’s relinquishment of the Philadelphia Corridor on the border with Egypt:

“The responsibility for external security along the borders with Egypt and Jordan, as well as control over the airspace above all of the territories and Gaza Strip maritime zone, remains in our hands.”

Correcting Oslo Myths-Part 2

3) Kuttab laments that the post-1993 Oslo process resulted in a Palestinian Authority "whose ministers and legislators are not guaranteed passage between Gaza and the West Bank ...."

Before free passage or other perquisites, PA leaders were obligated, among other things, to eliminate the terrorist infrastructure in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, end anti-Israeli, antisemitic incitement in schools, mosques, and communications media, and resolve all outstanding issues through peaceful negotiations. They met none of these commitments, sometimes bolstering terrorism and greatly increasing incitement.

4) Kuttab complains that under Oslo the PA got "lightly armed police ---- but no real sovereignty over the land or contiguity between our communities in Gaza and the West Bank."

Oslo agreements repeatedly were revised, regardless of Palestinian non-compliance, until the authorized number of police grew from 8,000 to 40,000. Though they were to be the only armed forces in the territories, Israeli estimates early in the second intifada put the number of gunmen - police, "security services," terrorists, and armed gangs - at 85,000. Their armament reportedly included not only heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, but also anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

Sovereignty was to be negotiated in the envisioned 1998 "final status" talks - after a five-year period of confidence-building. Palestinian leadership chronically undermined the process. Palestinian terrorism made the 1993 - 1998 Oslo period more deadly for Israelis than the 15 years preceding it.

The United States doesn't have contiguity between the lower 48 states and Alaska and Hawaii; territorial contiguity between the West Bank and Gaza Strip - that is, through the 20 miles of Israeli territory between them - was never promised and would destroy Israeli contiguity.

5) "Palestinians have been made to endure hundreds of checkpoints in the West Bank, an eight-foot wall deep in our territories, and tight Israeli control over borders."

The security barrier is not "deep in Palestinian territories," but rather encompasses less than 8 percent of Judea and Samaria, and is mostly a fence, rarely a wall; the land in question is not "our [Palestinian] territories" but disputed territory to which, according to the authors of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, Jews as well as Arabs have claims; and there are no international borders, only the 1949 armistice lines with Jordan. Under 242, borders remain to be negotiated. As for checkpoints - like the security barrier and "tight Israeli control" - Palestinian Arabs precipitated these measures themselves. No terrorism and there would be no fence or tight Israeli control and few checkpoints - like before the first intifada.

Correcting Some Oslo Myths

1) In Oslo "Israeli, Palestinian and other world leaders promised that ... Palestinian sovereignty would be solidified."

No, they didn't. The 1993 Declaration of Principles and subsequent Oslo agreements outlined a process by which final status negotiations about the West Bank and Gaza Strip would be reached. The process required an end to anti-Israel terrorism and incitement and a commitment to peaceful negotiations. The PA, Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and other terrorist groups, sabotaged the process from the start.

2) "The reality is that, in defiance of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, which states that it is inadmissible to occupy land by force, Palestinian territories are still under foreign military occupation."
Wrong again. Resolution 242 (1967) does note "the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war." It also affirms the right of every state in the area "to live in peace with secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." There were no "Palestinian territories." Jordan occupied the West Bank, Egypt controlled Gaza. Israel did not have "secure and recognized boundaries," so retention of some of those territories was possible under 242. Israel is not a "foreign" military occupier in the West Bank but, pending final negotiations, the lawful military administrator as a result of a successful war of self-defense.

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