HR: Why do you think that is?
MG: My publisher, Rene van Praag of RVP Publishers says that just
as many stories are too small for leading newspapers, a few are 'too
big'.
HR: What does a 'too big story mean" in this case?
MG:
Once it becomes widely known that out of 400 million adult EU citizens,
150 million have demonic antisemitic views; the possible consequences
for the EU's image, its politics, and its need to act cannot be
ignored. The EU presents itself as a "model of democracy and promoter
of human rights." From the 150 million number of citizens with demonic
views of Israel and the book's interviews, it also emerges as a
conglomeration of anti-Israel hate-mongering and a widespread criminal
worldview. In the 1930s, European countries had a huge number of
citizens with a criminal worldview of the Jews. In view of the
Holocaust thereafter and other atrocities this similarity pulls the
bottom out of the image of a humanitarian Europe.
HR: Are there other possible consequences?
MG: It may, for instance, become difficult for the EU to avoid
investigating who has contributed to creating this criminal worldview.
That should lead to explosive results. One will, for instance, have to
point at leading EU and national politicians in various countries. This
would not only be a further assault on the EU's contrived humanitarian
image, but also on some countries and political parties. These European
hate-mongers do not necessarily believe themselves that Israel
exterminates the Palestinians, or behaves like the Nazis. Their biased
statements however, all contribute to this image. This is the method of
"the thousands cuts." On an individual basis, none of these attacks has
caused the dramatic results the studies show. However, together they
have created them.
HR: What else has contributed to Europe's criminal worldview of Israel?
MG:
Another element is the trivialization and partly hiding of major
horrific events in the European countries' own past. In this way, a far
too rosy picture of Europe's own history is painted. This is then
compared to the greatly falsified picture of Israel. Very important is
also the far too little attention given to the widespread criminality
and hate-mongering in large parts of Palestinian society and many
Arabic and Muslim states. If mass murders, terror attacks and other
major crimes there were highlighted proportionally to the size of the
population and misconduct in those countries, news about Israel would
be comparatively negligible. Looking away from major crimes in the
Muslim world is an example of what we might call "humanitarian racism".
Many people ignore the crimes of people of color because they are
perceived as weak. Such racists often falsely claim that they belong in
the anti-racist camp.
HR: Any other possible considerations concerning the findings of your book?
MG:
Another major consideration is that the widespread European criminal
worldview of the 1930's was the precursor to major crimes committed in
Europe in the 1940's. It raises the questions: what could the current
criminal worldview lead to? Will it again lead to major European crimes,
this time against Israel? Or will Europeans be criminal bystanders
when many in Muslim countries will want to commit extreme crimes
against Israel? My book thus exposes a potentially huge story.
HR: The emphasis in the introduction for Demonizing Israel and the Jews
is on exposing Europe's massive criminal worldview of Israel, which to
some extent overshadows the 57 interviews which are the main part of the
book. What have you tried to achieve with these interviews?
MG: This is a collection of interviews with Jewish leaders,
scholars, experts, politicians, journalists, important figures in Jewish
organizations, and the like. Together they illustrate how widespread,
intense and multifaceted hate-mongering against Israel and the Jews is.
The book deals with many countries and disciplines. After reading these
interviews, one better understands how the demonic worldview of Israel
in Europe has been created. The book is divided into a section with
interviews which primarily focus on Israel and another, which mainly
addresses classic antisemitism.
HR: What countries do most of the interviewees cover?
MG: The interviews deal with more than ten European
countries. There are also interviews with Gustavo Perednik on Argentina,
Rifat Bali on the uncertain future of Turkey's Jewish communities,
Maurice Roumani about what are attitudes in Libya with respect to its
former Jewish community, Zvi Mazel on Egyptian anti-Semitism from
Mubarak to Morsi as well as with Mitchell Bard on the powerful Saudi
lobby in the United States. There is also an interview with Justus
Weiner, which discusses how Muslims are driving out Christians from
Palestinian territories.
HR: Many of your interviews address various groups of perpetrators of antisemitism and anti-Israelism. What are the main ones?
MG: The greatest hatred of Israel by far comes
out of parts of the Muslim world. This could easily fill several books
of interviews. In Demonizing Israel and the Jews, interviewees
elaborate on some of its aspects. Richard Landes explains how Muslim
conspiracy theories affect Jews; Gunther Jikeli addresses Muslim
antisemitism among European youths; former Chairman of the French
umbrella organization CRIF, Richard Prasquier, discusses Muslim
antisemitism in France.
HR: We at HonestReporting are of course very interested in media bias.
MG: This, like so many other topics in Demonizing Israel and the Jews also
merits a book in itself. One interview is with Simon Plosker, Managing
Editor of HonestReporting. Another is with Andrea Levin of CAMERA. In a
third one, litigation lawyer Trevor Asserson takes the bias of the BBC -
as far as reporting about Israel is concerned - largely apart. On a
different note, moviemaker Gloria Greenfield tells about her documentary
Unmasked Judeophobia and the reactions to it.
HR: Another major source of Israel hatred comes from the extreme Left.
MG: Indeed, this is addressed for instance by Angelo Pezzana
who explains how anti-Israel Italians, primarily extreme leftists, abuse
Holocaust memory. Simon Epstein discusses 60 years of French
intellectual bias against Israel, giving much attention to the
Communists. Ken Sikorski analyzes the Finnish scene, including the
Socialists.
HR: European Socialists and Social Democrats have also manifested strong anti-Israel attitudes.
MG: The leading Norwegian non-fiction writer, Hanne Nabintu
Herland tells about how the "politically correct" hatred of Israel is
promoted. She said that the Labor Party plays a major role in turning
Norway into the most anti-Semitic country in the West. Ilya Meyer
discusses how Sweden's third largest city Malmo, has become an
internationally known hotbed of antisemitism. Part of this is due to the
previous Labor Party Mayor Ilmar Reepalu, who has made frequent
anti-Semitic remarks. Jehudi Kinar, former Israeli Ambassador to
Belgium, details anti-Israelism in Belgian socialist parties.
HR: Yet, another source of Israel hatred comes from Christian circles.
MG: Far too little attention is paid to this. This subject
also merits a special interview book. Dutch scholar Hans Jansen tells
about the deep roots of Protestant antisemitism since its founding. His
main focus is on church reformer Martin Luther. He also discusses the
hateful Kairos document coming out of the part of the Palestinian
Christian community. David Parsons explains how one can distinguish
between pro-Israeli and anti-Israeli Protestants theologically. Dexter
van Zile exposes the anti-Israel politics of the World Council of
Churches.
HR: What about terrorism?
MG: Psychiatrist Daphne Burdman analyzes how Palestinian
children are indoctrinated to genocidal hatred. Michael Whine gives an
overview of how Jewish communities and Israelis abroad have been
targeted by terrorists.
HR: What about self-hating Israelis and Jews? There aren't that many, but they do cause damage.
MG: Hebrew University Philosophy Professor Elhanan Yakira
points out the similarities between Israeli and Jewish post-Zionists and
Holocaust deniers. Harvard Psychologist Ken Levin diagnoses the Jews
and Israelis who embrace criticism from extreme antisemites and
anti-Israelis. He says that this phenomenon reveals great similarity to
the responses of children subjected to chronic abuse.
HR: What about NGO's, hatred on the internet, etc.
MG: Gerald Steinberg discusses NGO bias against Israel,
Rabbi Abraham Cooper explains the dangers of antisemitism and terrorism
on the internet, while Ronald Eissens evokes the problems concerning
internet hate on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.
HR: Do you also discuss some of the tools of transmission of hatred in contemporary antisemitism and anti-Israelism?
MG: Certain media are perpetrators of antisemitism and
anti-Israelism through editorials and their selection of news items.
Through the publication of anti-Israel op-eds, they are tools of
transmission of bias. Similarly, the United Nations is both a
perpetrator and a tool of Israel hatred. The latter is illustrated in
the interview with Yohanan Manor about the "Zionism is Racism"
resolution. Cartoons are a very effective tool to promote and transmit
hatred as Joel Kotek demonstrates. Another tool of transmission of
hatred among many is language. Georges-Elia Sarfati stresses that words
are not neutral, but serve to introduce a certain vision of an issue
addressed.
HR: Are there also interviews on how to fight antisemitism and anti-Israelism?
MG: An important one is the interview with former Canadian
Justice Minister Irwin Cotler. He lists political, diplomatic, economic
and legal tools available to counteract the Iranian threat. Cotler says
that there is enough proof to bring Iran before the International Court
of Justice.
HR: Anything else?
MG: We would have to hold many other conversations like this one to cover all the major themes of the book.
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