Last
week, Jonathan Tobin wrote here
of how we were on the eve of a fourth Palestinian "no" to a peace agreement. It
would appear that has now arrived, albeit slightly sooner than anyone had
expected. Many observers assumed that once Secretary of State John Kerry got
around to submitting his framework for a negotiated peace, Palestinian Authority
head Mahmoud Abbas would then set about finding an excuse for rejecting it. What
few could have predicted was that Abbas would find a way to reject the proposal
before it was even submitted. Yet, this is precisely the impressive feat that
Abbas has now accomplished.
Earlier
today, Abbas's spokespeople in Ramallah announced
the PA's new set of red lines in any negotiated peace settlement. Each and every
one of these red lines blows to pieces anything Kerry was about to propose, as
it does to the prospects for an agreement between the two sides in general.
These red lines which Abbas details in a letter being sent to the U.S. and the
Quartet seamlessly preempts whatever Kerry was likely to outline in his own
peace parameters. In this way Abbas artfully dodges a scenario in which the
Israelis would agree to a peace plan and the Palestinians would come under
pressure not to derail yet another effort to resolve the
conflict.
Abbas's
new red lines block just about every concession that the Israelis, and even the
U.S., have requested. Abbas demands: a total Israeli withdrawal from all
territories that went to Israel in 1967; that Israel complete that withdrawal
within three to four years; that the Palestinians not be required to recognize
the Jewish state; that east Jerusalem be specified as the capital of a
Palestinian state; the release of all Palestinian prisoners; and resolving the
refugee issue along the lines of UN General Assembly resolution 194, which in
essence means sending those Palestinians claiming to be refugees, not to a
Palestinian state, but to Israel, thus terminating the existence of the Jewish
state Abbas refuses to recognize.
Yuval.
"Without
these principles there can be no just and comprehensive peace in the region,"
stated Abbas's spokesman Abu Rudeineh. So it seems we can now bid farewell to
Kerry's rather shambolic efforts for reaching a negotiated peace, much of which
have been marred by the trading of insults and accusations between the State
Department and Israeli politicians, all the while with the EU standing on the
sidelines, issuing threats about the repercussions for Israel should talks fail.
In fact, earlier
today
EU parliamentary president Martin Shulz was in Israel's Knesset lecturing
Israelis (in German) on making "painful concessions for peace," bemoaning the
hardships he accused Israel of having inflicted on the Palestinians.
Israel's
chief negotiator, Tzipi Livni, recently suggested
that on the matter of the Palestinians accepting the Jewish state we might be in
for a surprise. As it turned out, we weren't. No one will be surprised by this
rejection from the Palestinians, even if its early timing will have caught some
a little off-guard. Even President Obama, who had been speaking of Kerry's
framework having a less than 50 percent likelihood of success, won't be
surprised when he receives Abbas's letter. And Kerry, who was seeing all of this
unfold close-up, surely won't be able to claim to be surprised
either.
As
it was, the State Department was increasingly looking like it was about to try
strong-arming the Israelis into accepting a framework, even on such unacceptable
matters as a full Israeli withdrawal from the Jordan valley. Kerry was beginning
to issue thinly veiled threats to the Israelis about what might become of Israel
should it not find a way to appease Palestinian demands. There were also
rumors
that the State Department was trying to get the White House to back efforts to
pressure the Israelis into accepting a deal even less to Israel's liking than
the one it originally seemed Kerry was about to come up with. Now, presumably,
Prime Minister Netanyahu won't have to worry about being asked to accept
parameters that no Israeli leader could be expected to inflict on their people.
Instead, Abbas has most likely deflected that whole unpleasant
business.
What
remains to be seen is how the EU, the State Department, J Street, the
boycotters, the writers of Haaretz and the New York Times, and
indeed Abbas himself will manage to pin this whole debacle on Israel and
Netanyahu.
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PA
tells Kerry no to framework deal in current form
Palestinians
informed US secretary central elements of his proposal are unacceptable,
Ramallah officials say
The Palestinian Authority
has informed US Secretary of State John Kerry that it will not accept his
framework peace proposal as it currently stands, PA officials told The Times of
Israel.
The
officials claimed that the Obama administration's current proposal, which is
intended to serve as the basis for continued talks on a two-state solution,
includes pretty much everything Israel demanded - almost down to the last detail
- but does not address vital requirements from the Palestinian side. (Israeli
officials have voiced numerous objections of their own to the reported terms,
with Israel's Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon quoted as describing the security
aspect of the document, for instance, as "not worth the paper it's printed
on.")
The
Palestinian officials detailed to The Times of Israel what they said were the
main clauses of the framework proposal.
Peace
talks resumed last July and are due to end in April unless Kerry can persuade
the two sides to continue negotiations.
Israeli
officials have indicated that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is inclined to
accept the framework terms, on the basis that they are non-binding and that he
can express objections to them, though this has not been confirmed. Netanyahu is
to meet with President Barack Obama in Washington on March
3.
Central
clauses of the framework deal as presented by Kerry, and rejected by the PA, the
Palestinian officials said, are as follows:
Borders: The peace agreement is to
be based on pre-1967 lines, but will take into consideration changes on the
ground in the decades since.
Settlements: There will be no massive
evacuation of "residents."
Refugees: Palestinian refugees will
be able to return to Palestine or remain where they currently live. In addition,
it is possible that a limited number of refugees could be allowed into pre-1967
Israel as a humanitarian gesture, and only with Israeli acquiescence. Nowhere is
it written that Israel bears responsibility for suffering caused to the
refugees.
Capital: The Palestinian capital
will be in Jerusalem.
Security: Israel has the right to
defend itself, by itself.
The
Jordan Valley: The IDF will retain a
presence in the Jordan Valley. The length of time the IDF will remain will
depend on the abilities of the Palestinian security
forces.
Border
crossings: Israel will continue to
control border crossings into Jordan.
Definition
of the countries: Two states will result, "a
national state of the Jewish people and a national state of the Palestinian
people."
Palestinian reservations
Senior Palestinian sources
told The Times of Israel that many of the above clauses are unacceptable to the
PA for several reasons.
For a start, the references
to the borders and settlements leave too much room for Israeli
interpretation. "What does 'There will be no widespread evacuation of
residents' mean?" asked one official. "This means that Israel will want to keep
a bigger percentage of the West Bank and this point is not acceptable to us.
What does 'Taking into consideration changes on the ground since then' mean? I
mean, Israel continues to build settlements."
The official continued:
"The same with the refugee issue; there is no recognition of Palestinian
suffering. We want an expression of regret, an Israeli admission of the
suffering caused to us. Where did it disappear to? And the humanitarian gesture
[for a limited entry of Palestinian refugees into Israel] that depends on
Israel's consent doesn't leave much to the imagination," the official said,
indicating that Israel would not likely be generous on this
issue.
The official added that a
still more problematic issue for the PA is Jerusalem.
"When the Palestinian
capital is defined as 'in Jerusalem,' what does it mean? In Shuafat? In
Issawiya? We demanded that the Palestinian capital would be al-Quds a-Sharqiya
(East Jerusalem). But Netanyahu refused firmly, and the US administration
accepted his position.
"What about security and
the Jordan Valley? What does it mean that Israel has the right to defend itself,
by itself? We will not agree to the entry of Israeli troops into the PA
territory. And as for the ongoing presence of the army in the Jordan Valley,
it's ridiculous to set the timeline [for the IDF's exit] according to 'the
abilities of the PA security forces.' Who will determine that ability? And who
will say, 'That's it, the PA is ready to assume responsibility for the
Valley'?"
(For its part, Israel would
likely have significant objections to the Kerry framework terms if they are
drafted as claimed by the Palestinians. Israel has indicated that the relatively
minor alterations to the pre-1967 lines envisaged by the PA are inadequate, and
that there will have to be larger land swaps to accommodate most of the
settlers. Netanyahu further wants any Jews whose settlements are on the
Palestinian side of an agreed border to be given the option of staying on under
Palestinian rule, an official in his office told The Times of Israel last month
- a stance rejected by Abbas. Israel is adamantly opposed to any "return" for
any Palestinian refugees to today's Israel. Netanyahu has reportedly insisted
that there be no suggestion of legitimate Palestinian claims to Jerusalem in the
framework document. And he has insisted that the IDF secure the West Bank-Jordan
border even after Palestinian statehood.)
On Tuesday, when Nabil Abu
Rudeineh, PA President Mahmoud Abbas's official spokesman, referred to Kerry's
framework agreement, he surprised observers by saying that if both sides get to
raise objections to its content, as Kerry has said they will be permitted to, it
would empty the agreement of all its content.
Rudeineh's statement was
hard to fathom, given the significant reservations the Palestinians have with
the current version. Almost all senior Palestinian officials with whom The Times
of Israel has spoken in recent days made clear that the PA does not have the
legitimacy, in the eyes of the public, to accept the Kerry
proposals.
"We said 'No' to him in the
past, and we will say it again in the future," a senior PA administrator said.
According to this official, accepting the current version of the framework
accord is unthinkable for the PA. The official did not hide his anger toward the
US administration, and of course, toward Israel.
"We have reached many
achievements in recent years. We have attained stability and quiet [in the West
Bank]," he said this week in Ramallah. "But you [the Israelis] are now allowing
the situation deteriorate. Your security echelon understands the problems and
the difficulties. But the political leadership does not care at all. Everyone is
acting on the basis of his or her own political interests. [Foreign Minister
Avigdor] Liberman is winking at the center; Netanyahu is afraid of the right;
the Jewish Home party is hardening its position; and [Justice Minister and chief
negotiator Tzipi] Livni is too weak. So you ask me if there is a partner for
peace? The answer is 'No.'"
Asked how events would play
out if the PA rejects the framework proposal when Kerry presents it, the
official said, "All
options are open to us, whether contacting international institutions [to seek
to advance Palestinian statehood unilaterally] or in other ways.
But, he warned, "I have no
doubt that the situation on the ground will get worse. For both sides. The
stability we have grown used to will start to crack."
There are a number of
reasons for this, he went on, and listed a litany of grievances. "One, the
steps of the Israeli occupation and the settlers. The arrest, land
confiscations, house demolitions, and of course violence against settlers. Two,
the high youth unemployment rate. There are no economic opportunities for young
Palestinians and one of the central reasons for this is lack of land for
development. Area C - 60% of the West Bank - is under full Israeli control, and
we are not allowed to build there or invest in various projects. Three, the
stopping of international aid programs. I include here UNRWA budget cuts. This
leads to a sharp increase in poverty and unemployment, specifically in the
poorest places like the refugee camps.
"Four," he continued,
"Hamas and the extremist factions don't want the situation to stabilize, and are
doing a lot in order to undermine it. I'm talking about dozens of cells that
have been detained in the past year by Palestinian security forces, which
planned attacks against Israelis and against the PA. They are also initiating
demonstrations and popular protests, and are using the settlers' crimes in order
to attack the PA. Five, Jerusalem and al-Aqsa. Your actions there, such as the
visits of right-wing politicians to the mount, hurt the feelings of every Arab
and Palestinian."
The PA is also having
trouble digesting the Israeli insistence on the Palestinian recognition of
Israel as a Jewish state, he noted.
"We have no intention of
dragging this conflict in a religious direction. Every sensible person in the
Middle East is trying to keep religion away from the various conflicts, except
for you. What's in it for you? The conflict between us is not religious. So why
do you need our recognition that your state is Jewish? In your ID cards, your
nationality is listed as 'Israeli' and not as 'Jewish.' You never asked such a
thing of Egypt or Jordan. What is your concern? We are telling you outright: the
peace agreement will bring about the end of the conflict and the end of all
claims. So what is all this nonsense you are saying that this proves we won't
accept the state of Israel? The whole world recognizes you. These are not the
days of the founding, when the world didn't accept you. But you're still stuck
in that mindset."
Netanyahu has called
Palestinian recognition of Israel as the "Jewish state" his "first
and most unshakable demand." "Recognizing Israel
as the nation-state of the Jewish people means completely abandoning the 'right
of return' and ending any other national demands over the land and sovereignty
of the State of Israel," he
said last October. "This is a crucial
component for a genuine reconciliation and stable and durable
peace."
'Israel
is in touch with Hamas and Dahlan'
The disaffection with
Israel, as expressed by the Palestinian Authority leadership, is not confined to
the dispute over the framework document and the terms of a final-status
agreement. Abbas's associates have a growing sense that the Israeli government
is working behind the Palestinian scenes to corner him politically and force him
to compromise. They claim to have proof of a direct link between Israel and
Hamas in Gaza, as well as with out-of-favor former Abbas confidant Mohammad
Dahlan, despite Israeli officials' denials.
According to Abbas's
affiliates, secretive talks between Hamas and Israel are being mediated by
Qatar, and not Egypt, which views Hamas as a serious threat to regional
stability.
"We see what Israel is
trying to do here - to undermine our internal affairs and to force Abbas to
compromise," said a PA official. "But this leads us to harden our positions
rather than show any will to concede. You need to understand, the overthrow
Hamas carried out in Gaza will not repeat itself in the West Bank. Instead of
strengthening moderates, Israel is trying to weaken us. The entire region
currently suffers from a rise of extremism and terror activities. You must
cooperate with us in order to achieve peace, not fight with
us."
It may be that the warnings
about a likely deteriorating security situation, and even the pledge to say no
to the Americans, some Palestinians analysts said this week, are empty threats
by the PA. These analysts estimate that Abbas would prefer not to get into a
direct confrontation with the US administration, and that, therefore, he is more
likely to give Kerry a "Yes, but," rather than an outright
"No."
Yet the sensitivity of
Abbas's political situation, and the deteriorating reality on the ground, cannot
be ignored. Criticism of the PA's governance is widely heard in the Palestinian
street. More and more allegations of corruption are emerging, after years in
which it seemed that the level of such abuse was receding.
Law and order in the West
Bank is also said to be weakening. Residents of Ramallah-area refugee camps like
Jalazun and Qalandiya, and those near Nablus and Jenin, increasingly speak of
armed men moving around at night, worsening violence, and even a rise in drug
use. PA policemen are involved in selling weapons in some cases, PA officials
have acknowledged.
Some of the reasons for the
decline in the PA's functioning are likely related to the departure of prime
minister Salam Fayyad, and his replacement by Rami Hamdallah. Hamdallah is more
focused on political confrontation with Israel and less on building a state,
according to some Palestinian commentators. This is also seen in the significant
weakening of the Palestinian court system, they said, and in the dwindling funds
in the state treasury.
Of late monthly salaries to
PA officials were paid without a reliance on foreign donations, PA Finance
Minister Shukri Bishara recently announced. But Palestinian officials predicted
that by next month, funds in the PA coffers will have dwindled again to the
point where it would once again struggle to pay its employees.
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/14411#.UuCZvxAo5D8
Abbas
Will Dismantle Kerry's Palestine Framework
David
Singer
Published:
Monday, January 20, 2014 7:59 AM
The
League of Nations found no identifiable indigenous people already existing in
Palestine when, in 1922, it decided to sanction the Jewish National Home in its
ancient homeland.
No
amount of doublespeak, winks or nudges will enable Kerry to present a framework
agreement that has any chance of a diplomatic
breakthrough
unless the disingenuous Abbas narrative is abandoned.
PLO
Chairman Mahmoud Abbas has wasted no time dismantling US Secretary of
State John Kerry's proposed framework agreement with an intemperate
outburst affirming the PLO will never recognise Israel as the Jewish
State.
Abbas
stated:
"We
won't recognize and accept the Jewishness of Israel. We have many excuses and
reasons that prevent us from doing that".
Israel's
problem is that the Palestinian Arabs know more than the Israelis about history
and geography, he said. "We talk about what we know," he
said.
Kerry
had alluded to the daunting problems he faced producing his framework agreement
as the basis for ongoing negotiations between Israel and the PLO at a joint
press conference with chief PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat in Ramallah at the
beginning of January.
"There
are narrative issues; difficult, complicated years of mistrust that have been
built up, all of which has to be worked through and undone, and a pathway has to
be laid down in which the parties can have confidence that they know what is
happening and that the road ahead is real, not illusory."
The
narrative issues raised by Abbas's latest comments underscore the two very
different Jewish and Arab perspectives of their 130 years old conflict which
appear certain to continue to remain irreconcilable.
These
issues goes to the very heart of the conflict - and short of a complete
retraction by Abbas - will continue to be the quicksand into which Kerry's
framework agreement will collapse into political oblivion.
Abbas
has clearly signalled the continuing refusal of the PLO to accept the unanimous
decision of the League of Nations on 24 July 1922 legally sanctioning the
reconstitution of the Jewish National Home in its ancient and biblical homeland
- as promulgated in the Mandate for Palestine.
The
site for the Jewish National Home - originally intended to be established within
100% of the Mandate territory - was restricted to being created within just 22%
of that area (now Israel and the "West Bank") by virtue of the application of
article 25 of the Palestine Mandate on 23 September 1922.
The
"two state" solution now being pursued by Kerry had its actual genesis in this
decision - when the remaining 78% of Palestine (now Jordan) was set aside for
Arab self determination (with the entire 22% to be the Jewish National
Home).
The
League of Nations found no identifiable indigenous people then already existing
in Palestine - referring only to
1.
the " civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in
Palestine"
2. "safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion"
3. "The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration... and shall encourage ... close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes."
2. "safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion"
3. "The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration... and shall encourage ... close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes."
In
1964 - when the PLO was formed - article 18 of its founding Charter consigned
the Mandate and all subsequent decisions of the League of Nations and its
successor - the United Nations - to the garbage bin - considering them
all to be "fraud".
These
long standing, international legally binding commitments were
dismissed with even more contempt when the PLO Charter was revised in 1968 -
article 20 unequivocally declaring:
"The
Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been
based upon them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious
ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the
true conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not
an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an
identity of its own; they are citizens of the states to which they
belong."
"Palestine",
the name given by the Romans to the area, had also been miraculously transformed
by the PLO Charter to become:
1.
"the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people"
2. "an indivisible part of the Arab homeland
3. "the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation"
4. "an indivisible territorial unit with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate"
2. "an indivisible part of the Arab homeland
3. "the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation"
4. "an indivisible territorial unit with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate"
This
amazing metamorphosis has been the driver seeking to delegitimize and denigrate
the Jewish people's legal right to establish a state of their own sitting
alongside 57 Arab and Moslem nations in the United Nations on equal terms and
with mutual diplomatic recognition.
This
narrative has resulted in the majority of those Arab and Moslem States -
and regretfully many other UN member States - seeking to subvert the legal
right of Jews to reconstitute their national home in Judea and Samaria (the
"West Bank") as laid down by article 6 of the Mandate and article 80 of the
United Nations Charter.
Having
become members of the United Nations - thereby having agreed to accept the
obligations set out in the UN Charter - including article 80 - these
rejectionist States have become involved in a concerted Arab and Moslem campaign
to relegate the Jewish State from world atlases back into the Bible -
where its birth and history was first recorded.
No
amount of doublespeak, winks or nudges will enable Kerry to present a framework
agreement that has any chance of a diplomatic breakthrough unless this
disingenuous Abbas narrative is abandoned.
Abbas's
knowledge of history and geography is demonstrably false and
misleading.
Entrapped
by a fictitious narrative that rejects binding international law, history and
geography while maintaining an illusory belief they can be re-written - the Arab
League and the PLO will surely miss yet another historic opportunity to end
their conflict with the Jewish people.
So
will Kerry.
Notes from Truth Provider: I wrote this bulletin last night and because of a
glitch in my server could not send it until now.
Meanwhile, it was published that Abu Mazen met with a delegation of Israeli students and said to them things they wanted to hear: Among other thing, he does not intend for Jerusalem to be divided. The city, undivided, will serve as the Capital of both states. He does not demand the return of refugees to Israel. He will fight against incitement. He has never been a Holocaust denier, etc. etc.
Do not believe a word of it!!! Half of his forked tongue can speak English to Israeli students, while his other half, the Arabic one, is either silent, or says what the Arabs wish to hear.
This, by the way, is reminiscent of {resident Obama. I wonder if he learned this duplicity from the Arabs...
Hamas and some PA elements have already declared Abbas' promises to the students null and void.
And now for yesterday's bulletin:
Dear friends,
I do not have a crystal ball, but unlike the delusional left, I do possess some grains of reality in the cavity between my ears. No, I am not trying to be funny. I wrote "ears," because by profession I am trained to hear and discern tunes, harmony and tones. The music I hear coming from the "Palestinians" is the fourth movement of a symphony titled THE REFUSAL. The refusal to recognize Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people. Unlike the original one, this UNFINISHED symphony is full of dissonances and cacophony.
One thing I must admit: The "Palestinians" are consistent and have been so for over 100 years. They do not budge one iota. Only the fickle Israelis change their tunes every decade or so.
History entrusted the Israelis and their governments with 2000 years of a Zionist dream. The Land of Israel is the bank in which Zionism has been deposited for perpetuity to strengthen and gather fruits. This deposit belongs to all Israelis and all Jews around the world. Yet there are those among us who are perfectly willing to let go of this sacred deposit and hand it over to the enemies. The enemies that refuse to recognize us and our right to our land. This amounts to allowing robbers free access to the bank.
Luckily, the robbers and their helpers refuse to settle with a part of the loot. They want the whole thing.
It now looks evermore certain that the "Palestinians" will yet again, for at least the 4th time, say NO to the latest negotiations attempt.
The following articles explain why. Also, please log into www.truthprovider.com for an excellent article on the subject by Jonathan S. Tubin.
The map below will help you understand the suicidal nature of any Israeli "Two Stater" even if the "Palestinians" agree to a demilitarized state which of course they will not. Why would they?
Your Truth Provider,
Yuval.
Meanwhile, it was published that Abu Mazen met with a delegation of Israeli students and said to them things they wanted to hear: Among other thing, he does not intend for Jerusalem to be divided. The city, undivided, will serve as the Capital of both states. He does not demand the return of refugees to Israel. He will fight against incitement. He has never been a Holocaust denier, etc. etc.
Do not believe a word of it!!! Half of his forked tongue can speak English to Israeli students, while his other half, the Arabic one, is either silent, or says what the Arabs wish to hear.
This, by the way, is reminiscent of {resident Obama. I wonder if he learned this duplicity from the Arabs...
Hamas and some PA elements have already declared Abbas' promises to the students null and void.
And now for yesterday's bulletin:
Dear friends,
I do not have a crystal ball, but unlike the delusional left, I do possess some grains of reality in the cavity between my ears. No, I am not trying to be funny. I wrote "ears," because by profession I am trained to hear and discern tunes, harmony and tones. The music I hear coming from the "Palestinians" is the fourth movement of a symphony titled THE REFUSAL. The refusal to recognize Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people. Unlike the original one, this UNFINISHED symphony is full of dissonances and cacophony.
One thing I must admit: The "Palestinians" are consistent and have been so for over 100 years. They do not budge one iota. Only the fickle Israelis change their tunes every decade or so.
History entrusted the Israelis and their governments with 2000 years of a Zionist dream. The Land of Israel is the bank in which Zionism has been deposited for perpetuity to strengthen and gather fruits. This deposit belongs to all Israelis and all Jews around the world. Yet there are those among us who are perfectly willing to let go of this sacred deposit and hand it over to the enemies. The enemies that refuse to recognize us and our right to our land. This amounts to allowing robbers free access to the bank.
Luckily, the robbers and their helpers refuse to settle with a part of the loot. They want the whole thing.
It now looks evermore certain that the "Palestinians" will yet again, for at least the 4th time, say NO to the latest negotiations attempt.
The following articles explain why. Also, please log into www.truthprovider.com for an excellent article on the subject by Jonathan S. Tubin.
The map below will help you understand the suicidal nature of any Israeli "Two Stater" even if the "Palestinians" agree to a demilitarized state which of course they will not. Why would they?
Your Truth Provider,
Yuval.
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