Caroline Glick
In an interview with Haaretz in November 2010, British novelist Martin Amis said the following about discussions of Israel in his motherland:
In an interview with Haaretz in November 2010, British novelist Martin Amis said the following about discussions of Israel in his motherland:
After participating last week in a debate in London about Israeli communities beyond the 1949 armistice lines organized by the self-consciously pretentious Intelligence Squared debating society, I can now say from personal experience that Amis is correct. The public atmosphere in England regarding Israel is ugly and violent.I live in a mildly anti-Semitic country, and Europe is mildly anti-Semitic, and they hold Israel to a higher moral standard than its neighbors. If you bring up Israel in a public meeting in England, the whole atmosphere changes. The standard left-wing person never feels more comfortable than when attacking Israel. Because they are the only foreigners you can attack. Everyone else is protected by having dark skin, or colonial history, or something. But you can attack Israel. And the atmosphere becomes very unpleasant. It is traditional, snobbish, British anti-Semitism combined with present-day circumstances.
The resolution we debated read: "Israel is destroying itself with
its settlement policy. If settlement expansion continues Israel will
have no future."
We debated Daniel Levy, one of the founders of J-Street and the
drafter of the Geneva Initiative, and the son of Lord Michael Levy, one
of Tony Blair's biggest fundraisers; and William Sieghart, a British
philanthropist who runs a non-profit that among other things, champions
Hamas. Levy has publicly stated that Israel's creation was immoral. And Sieghart has a past record of saying that Israel's delegitimization would be a salutary proces and calling for a complete cultural boycott of Israel while laudingHamas.
We lost overwhelmingly. I think the final vote tally was something like 500 for the resolution and 100 against it.
A couple of impressions I took away from the experience: First, I
can say without hesitation that I hope never to return to Britain. I
actually don't see any point. Jews are targeted by massive anti-Semitism
of both the social and physical varieties. Why would anyone Jewish want
to live there?
As to visiting as an Israeli, again, I just don't see the point.
The discourse is owned by anti-Israel voices. They don't make arguments
to spur thought, but to end it, by appealing to people's passions.
For instance, in one particularly ugly segment, Levy made the
scurrilous accusation that Israel systematically steals land from the
Palestinians. Both Dayan and I demanded that he provide just one example
of his charge. And the audience raged against us for our temerity at
insisting that he provide substantiation for his baseless allegation. In
the event, he failed to substantiate his allegation.
At another point, I was asked how I defend the Nazi state of
Israel. When I responded by among other things giving the Nazi pedigree
of the Palestinian nationalist movement founded by Nazi agent Haj Amin
el Husseini and currently led by Holocaust denier Mahmoud Abbas, the
crowd angrily shouted me down.
I want to note that the audience was made up of upper crust,
wealthy British people, not unwashed rabble rousers. And yet they
behaved in many respects like a mob when presented with pro-Israel
positions.
I honestly don't know whether there are policy implications that
arise from my experience in London last week. I have for a long time
been of the opinion that Israel shouldn't bother to try to win over
Europe because the Europeans have multiple reasons for always being
anti-Israel and none of them have anything to do with anything that
Israel does. As I discuss in my book, these reasons include
anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, addiction to Arab oil, and growing
Muslim populations in Europe.
I was prepared to conduct a civilized debate based on facts and
reasoned argumentation. I expected it to be a difficult experience. I
was not expecting to be greeted by a well-dressed mob. My pessimism
about Europeans' capacity to avail themselves to reasoned, fact-based
argumentation about Israel has only deepened from the experience.
One positive note, I had a breakfast discussion last Wednesday
morning with activists from the Zionist Federation of Britain. The
people I met are committed, warm, hardworking Zionists. I wish them all
the best, and mainly that means, that I hope that these wonderful people
and their families make aliyah.
While their work is worthwhile, there is no future for Jews in England.
2 comments:
You are blatantly plagiarizing Caroline Glick's work.
With all due respect: if you read my blog daily you know I absolutely give credit-you also know that I link directly to the author's work-and now I see yesterday that I did not do this, I will, of course, fix this-please note all the other posts have been duly noted and if I were to do what you said I would take credit for it-I did NOT. Enough with the accusations, how about "did you forget to link? Amazing how some people interpret a circumstance. Please continue to read ,for content, my blog and do not hesitate to inform me when I make errors-but the accusations are beneath you-quite surprised actually. All the best-don
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