Thursday, May 30, 2013

Muslim groups want FBI out of anti-jihad role, hard-line orthodox imams in

Just how far have Muslims infiltrated the FBI? The posts of the last few days gave you a clue. Now they want the FBI out of the anti-jihad business. via The Daily Caller » Muslim advocates urge reduced FBI anti-jihad role

Politically influential Muslim activists are pushing to reduce the FBI’s role in countering Islamic terrorism and are seeking greater federal reliance on hard-line orthodox Imams.
The White House’s “Countering Violent Extremism” program “did not produce the results a lot of us were hopeful … [and] kind of collapsed towards the end of last year,” complained Mohamed Elibiary, a Texas-based advocate who was appointed to the Homeland Security Advisory Council.
“I don’t know where it is today … [but] it presents us with the opportunity to look at the question of [whether] it is right to house it within the FBI,” he said at an May 28 event in D.C. staged by the Muslim Public Affairs Council.

The controversial CVE program was boosted in 2011, when President Barack Obama directed the FBI to work with Muslim political and community groups to suppress jihadi attacks, which are dubbed as non-Islamic “violent extremism.”
But, said Elibiary, “we spun our wheels for the last two years [and] we never got the national CVE policy across all 56 [FBI field] offices.”
Instead, said panelists, the FBI has continued its traditional policy of investigating jihadis for subsequent trial and convictions.
In contrast, the Department of Homeland Security, Elibiary said, has done much good by trying to work with Islamic groups.
The CVE program has been slammed by critics for giving too large an intermediary role to small Islamic political groups such as MPAC, which portray themselves as representatives of American Muslims. The groups try to foster the growth of distinct Islamic communities.
The CVE training has also been criticized for obscuring the many orthodox Islamic strictures that spur Muslims’ violence against non-Muslims.
Elibiary’s new call for reduced policing of Islamic communities, such as Boston’s immigrant Muslims, was echoed by other speakers at the panel, which was hosted by the progressive New American Foundation in Washington D.C.
“Imams and counselors need to be given some leeway” by police, said Suhaib Webb, Imam of the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center.
Webb’s cultural center is affiliated with the mosque attended by Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the ethnic Chechen Muslim who along with his brother Dzhokhar killed three Americans with two bombs at the Boston Marathon. Tsarnaev also killed a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer after Boston police broadcast his photo on TV. The police did not contact the main Boston mosque for help in identifying Tsarnaev’s image, which was captured by videos of the explosion and its aftermath.
Webb, who was disinvited from the state’s April 18 memorial service by Governor Deval Patrick, said he can persuade young men to stay away from violence. But “I need to be able to sit down with someone and not be subpoenaed or be called as a witness” in a later terrorism investigation, he said.
To succeed, government anti-terror agencies should keep their distance from such outreach to angry youth, he said. “We don’t need to be too close to each other, because that undermines our [Imams’] street credibility,” said Webb.
No, you can’t make this shit up. PS: Obama spending “hundreds of millions of dollars” annually on Muslim engagement
Muslims in America have grievances, and “the way to address these grievances is not with violence, but with the way Islam prescribes… that way is best prescribed by Imams, not necessarily by the U.S. government,” said Rashad Hussain, President Barack Obama’s ambassador to the 57-nation Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
Muslims in America “are concerned that terrorists are killing innocent people,” Hussain said. Killing people who are innocent is “totally repulsive to their religion,” he said.
‘“Conservative and Salafi Imams are going to produce the most credible alternatives to al Qaeda” said panelist Peter Bergen, who is the director of the national security studies at the New America Foundation.
“It is going to be conservative Muslim voices and conservative Muslim scholars that will have the credibility” to persuade youth to stay away from violence, warned Rabia Chaudry, founder of the SafeNational Collaborative, a firm which offers to teach U.S. police about Islam’s blend of religion and politics.
She’s also suggests the media, the public and policy makers need to start enforcing Islamic blasphemy laws on “Islamophobes.”
By “conservative,” the speakers meant orthodox Imams, not free-market, small government conservatives.
One useful option, said Elibiary, would be for the government to allow young radicals an off-ramp from a pathway to jail.
Off-ramp, free-pass, sharia-law. Muslims are always the victims.

Diana West takes it down by paragraph here, DHS Advisor Lays Out US Path to “No Go Zones” :

First of all, the “activists” — let’s think of them as influence operators — are “influential” due to the access and input the federal government, the Obama administration and the Bush administration before it, gives them.
Second, the FBI’s role in countering Islamic terrorism is already drastically reduced by the New Security Orthodoxy that prohibits investigators from considering jihad as a threat doctrine.
MPAC, just by the way, was founded by “followers of the Muslim Brotherhood and admirers of Hezbollah”  — or is that “followers of Hezbollah and admirers of the Muslim Brotherhood”? I get them confused.
Do you see what is happening? This is a bid for enclaves, separate societies presided over by Islamic authorities empowered to control violence as US authorities withdraw. We are talking no-go-zones run by Islamic law.
Sharia, sharia, sharia.
Read it all.

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